Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Dear All There has been constant attraction to this group, for something in me recognises a sense of sincerity in the approach given to the subject matter. Forgive this intrusion into your pasts but did anyone in the group have contact with Maharaj Nisargardatta while he was in that embodiment? love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Is the one embodied there, other than the one embodied here? Is the one embodied, other than the one who surrounds the body? Dan Dear All There has been constant attraction to this group, for something in me recognises a sense of sincerity in the approach given to the subject matter. Forgive this intrusion into your pasts but did anyone in the group have contact with Maharaj Nisargardatta while he was in that embodiment? love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Dear Dan Of course your message is totally correct there is only one consciousness, but nevertheless the address known as Maharaj Nisargadatta was visited by many other addresses and I was enquiring whether any of the addresses in this group had a direct contact with Maharaj. love Peter - Daniel Berkow Nisargadatta Tuesday, February 27, 2001 9:46 PM Re: students of Nisargadatta Is the one embodied there, other than the one embodied here?Is the one embodied, other than the one who surrounds the body?Dan Dear All There has been constant attraction to this group, for something in me recognises a sense of sincerity in the approach given to the subject matter. Forgive this intrusion into your pasts but did anyone in the group have contact with Maharaj Nisargardatta while he was in that embodiment? love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Dear Peter -- I hear you. And maybe someone will supply that information for you ... In the meantime, while waiting for one of those responses, what I wonder is ... Would it be valid for me to say, yes, I've visited him today, right here? How valid would that be, or how invalid? Would it be important that I have the memory of a body visiting the apparent location of another body? Namaste, Dan Dear Dan Of course your message is totally correct there is only one consciousness, but nevertheless the address known as Maharaj Nisargadatta was visited by many other addresses and I was enquiring whether any of the addresses in this group had a direct contact with Maharaj. love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2001 Report Share Posted March 1, 2001 Dear Dan YES, That is completely valid, it is the position that this body mind complex (a mechanical gateway to the absolute) finds itself in. The question arose out of the desire to understand what happens to an address in consciousness when it is in the presence of a gateway to the absolute where the gate is open, or no longer there, where even the hinges seem to have been removed. Love Peter - Daniel Berkow Nisargadatta Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:41 PM Re: students of Nisargadatta Dear Peter -- I hear you.And maybe someone will supply that information for you ...In the meantime, while waiting for one of those responses, what I wonder is ...Would it be valid for me to say, yes, I've visited him today, right here?How valid would that be, or how invalid?Would it be important that I have the memory of a body visiting the apparent location of another body?Namaste,Dan Dear Dan Of course your message is totally correct there is only one consciousness, but nevertheless the address known as Maharaj Nisargadatta was visited by many other addresses and I was enquiring whether any of the addresses in this group had a direct contact with Maharaj. love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2001 Report Share Posted March 1, 2001 Hi Peter, Thank you for your kind response. As we still seem to be waiting for someone with information about unhinged gates, let me inquire: Through what you are calling the mechanical gateway -- who enters, who leaves? What is entered, what is left? Is a gateway needed to enter or leave? If so, why? If not, what difference would be made by a gateway with hinges meeting a gateway without hinges? I know -- a lot of questions. Just for the enjoyment of the dialogue, resonating with your responses ;-) Love, Dan Dear Dan YES, That is completely valid, it is the position that this body mind complex (a mechanical gateway to the absolute) finds itself in. The question arose out of the desire to understand what happens to an address in consciousness when it is in the presence of a gateway to the absolute where the gate is open, or no longer there, where even the hinges seem to have been removed. Love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Hi Dan As you say no path no gate all concepts, the concept of ignorance seems to prevail in this mechanical address. No words ? but here they are with affection and humility. While asleep last night our conversations entered into the dream, as the so called awake state appeared the dream of conversations continued and was observed by the same consciousness seamlessly. It was the first time that the transition was seen with such clarity and that the "awake state" is no different to the dream. Then the world of habit and illusion took over, so back to my part in the play. You are right Maharaj is alive and well. What a wonderful day. It was said that if you play the false part as you perceive the true to be, the false falls away. Do you think this what was said to Maharaj by his Guru when he was told that he was Brahma and should live as such. love and great thanks peter - Daniel Berkow Nisargadatta Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:32 PM Re: students of Nisargadatta Hi Peter,Thank you for your kind response.As we still seem to be waiting for someone with information about unhinged gates, let me inquire:Through what you are calling the mechanical gateway -- who enters, who leaves? What is entered, what is left?Is a gateway needed to enter or leave?If so, why?If not, what difference would be made by a gateway with hinges meeting a gateway without hinges?I know -- a lot of questions.Just for the enjoyment of the dialogue, resonating with your responses ;-)Love,Dan Dear Dan YES, That is completely valid, it is the position that this body mind complex (a mechanical gateway to the absolute) finds itself in. The question arose out of the desire to understand what happens to an address in consciousness when it is in the presence of a gateway to the absolute where the gate is open, or no longer there, where even the hinges seem to have been removed. Love Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Hi Peter, Hi Dan As you say no path no gate all concepts, the concept of ignorance seems to prevail in this mechanical address. No words ? but here they are with affection and humility. Yes, words are cute. They refer always to other words, just as memories refer always to other memories. What is this ever-changing Word, unable to sit still long enough to have a fixed meaning, never able to be contained enough to make it relate to other words? While asleep last night our conversations entered into the dream, as the so called awake state appeared the dream of conversations continued and was observed by the same consciousness seamlessly. It was the first time that the transition was seen with such clarity and that the " awake state " is no different to the dream. Then the world of habit and illusion took over, so back to my part in the play. I hear you. The world of habit is the world of repeated images, of memories lost with memories, and words making imaginary castles. That consciousness in which all this appears is really something. And when it notices that even " consciousness " is appearing in and from itself, what then? > You are right Maharaj is alive and well. What a wonderful day. Indeed. I raise a toast to you, in this day that has no morning or night... It was said that if you play the false part as you perceive the true to be, the false falls away. Do you think this what was said to Maharaj by his Guru when he was told that he was Brahma and should live as such. Oh, I agree. Play the false part fully, with no thought to hold back, and there is only the truth you are. Thanks for sharing this fascinating way to look at it, as well as your other observations. Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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