Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 http://www.escribe.com/religion/nondualitysalon/m20141.html [NDS] Jan/Re: Q.1. What does Nisagardatta mean by ... * Omkara Datta (view other messages by this author) * Sat, 24 Feb 2001 05:13:37 ------ Dear Jan, If you don't take words too seriously, and take them as " pointers " only, the issue is over and done with. You will then be relying on yourself instead of others. The ultimate key is to rely on your own direct experience in all of this. Approach everything with skepticism, explore it, if it doesn't " work for you " drop it immediately and move on. It's the scientific approach. Believe me, there is no " wrong way, " as long as you don't let yourself get stuck anywhere. As long as you don't pick one point of view and decide it's " true " and you will stay with it " forever. " When I first got into this 'nonduality thing,' I was " into " Shankara, then got interested in Vivekananda and the whole Neo-Vedanta thing, then got interested in Buddhism, then dropped that for Nisargadatta, then went through a Zen period... I've been through periods of seeing the world as a dream, seeing the body as real, seeing the body as unreal, have experienced various blissful states, painful states, pleasant states, unpleasant states, bizarre states, normal states, altered states, expansive states, contracted states... You see what I mean? Go with the flow. None of this stuff is " harmful " unless you attach to it and make it some sort of absolute. Go with it, see where it leads. It's an adventure. Maybe you can't get into the 'explorer' spirit? OK... I certainly don't know what's right for you... some sages do recommend " dig a deep well in one place rather than many shallow wells... " -- that approach never worked for me. Love, Omkara NondualitySalon, Jan <swork@a...> wrote: > Dear Tim, > > Rocket science is easy. All that uses logic or builds on what > already is known is easy. However here I am in unknown territory > where logic many times is discarded. Here I don't even know who is > speaking from experience and who is a pretender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 Dear Elizabeth, Why would anyone be " interested in me? " Did I say something unusual? If anyone is 'interested' in something about me, feel free to Email at fewtch, I'll be happy to tell you whatever you want. I'm an open book... (well, except maybe for credit card numbers and that type of thing :-)... Namaste, Tim (Omkara) Nisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote: > http://www.escribe.com/religion/nondualitysalon/m20141.html > > [NDS] Jan/Re: Q.1. What does Nisagardatta mean by ... > > > * Omkara Datta (view other messages by this author) > * Sat, 24 Feb 2001 05:13:37 > > -- ---- > > > > Dear Jan, > > If you don't take words too seriously, and take them as " pointers " > only, the issue is over and done with. You will then be relying on > yourself instead of others. The ultimate key is to rely on your own > direct experience in all of this. Approach everything with > skepticism, explore it, if it doesn't " work for you " drop it > immediately and move on. It's the scientific approach. > > Believe me, there is no " wrong way, " as long as you don't let > yourself get stuck anywhere. As long as you don't pick one point > of > view and decide it's " true " and you will stay with it " forever. " > > When I first got into this 'nonduality thing,' I was " into " Shankara, > then got interested in Vivekananda and the whole Neo-Vedanta > thing, > then got interested in Buddhism, then dropped that for > Nisargadatta, > then went through a Zen period... I've been through periods of > seeing > the world as a dream, seeing the body as real, seeing the body > as > unreal, have experienced various blissful states, painful states, > pleasant states, unpleasant states, bizarre states, normal > states, > altered states, expansive states, contracted states... > > You see what I mean? Go with the flow. None of this stuff > is " harmful " unless you attach to it and make it some sort of > absolute. Go with it, see where it leads. It's an adventure. > > Maybe you can't get into the 'explorer' spirit? OK... I certainly > don't know what's right for you... some sages do recommend > " dig a > deep well in one place rather than many shallow wells... " -- that > approach never worked for me. > > Love, > > Omkara > > NondualitySalon, Jan <swork@a...> wrote: > > Dear Tim, > > > > Rocket science is easy. All that uses logic or builds on what > > already is known is easy. However here I am in unknown > territory > > where logic many times is discarded. Here I don't even know > who is > > speaking from experience and who is a pretender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 I spent a decade stuck in the " black hole " in physics before Maharaj got me unstuck. I've seen folks equally stuck in Maharaj, and a bout with U.G. getting them unstuck. The way you used " I AM THAT " as a relief stop on your morning stroll, holds those kind of possibilities. Of course, we already have Sandeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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