Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Consciousness and the Absolute January 30, 1981. P.M. A real spiritual seeker ponders over these things all the time. When I have no body, what am I? What is the Ultimate Reality? The Absolute state cannot be explained by words. Words are only pointers. You are that Absolute, Unchanging Consciousness, or the Knowingness, which is homogeneous and one only. When you are in that state of consciousness, it is all one, all the same state, only the expressions are different. Everything which gets consumed, exhausted, is unreal. Your knowingness will, in due course, be consumed, will disappear, so it can not be real. But you can not just dismiss it. You must understand it fully. Presently there are an infinite number of items in your association with this world, because you have the association of the vital breath. Suppose that vital breath goes. What will happen then to all your associations with the world. This knowledge which has been expounded will not go to waste. Many people have taken advantage of it. The time will come when they will be enlightened also, and then they will expound knowledge. A Jnani's state remains the same, with or without the body. You should meditate, you should not lose what you have learned. When one disidentifies with the body, one transcends not only the body, but consciousness as well, since consciousness is a by-product of the body. The consciousness no longer says, " I am, I am. " .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 The only thing that I ever thought seemed unusual about Nisargadatta was his always referring to the Absolute or Brahman as a 'state' (which it can't be, by definition or otherwise) -- I wonder if it has to do with the translation... Namaste, Tim Nisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote: > > Consciousness and the Absolute > January 30, 1981. P.M. > > > > A real spiritual seeker > ponders over these things > all the time. > > When I have no body, > what am I? > > What is the Ultimate Reality? > > > > The Absolute state cannot be > explained by words. > > Words are only pointers. > > You are that Absolute, > Unchanging Consciousness, > or the Knowingness, > which is homogeneous and one only. > > When you are in that > state of consciousness, > it is all one, all the same state, > only the expressions are different. > > > > Everything which gets consumed, > exhausted, is unreal. > > Your knowingness will, in due course, > be consumed, will disappear, > so it can not be real. > > But you can not just dismiss it. > > You must understand it fully. > > > > Presently there are an infinite > number of items in your > association with this world, > > because you have the association > of the vital breath. > > > Suppose that vital breath goes. > > What will happen then to > all your associations > with the world. > > > > This knowledge which > has been expounded > will not go to waste. > > Many people have taken > advantage of it. > > The time will come when > they will be enlightened also, > and then they will expound > knowledge. > > > > A Jnani's state remains the same, > with or without the body. > > > > You should meditate, > you should not lose > what you have learned. > > > > When one disidentifies > with the body, > one transcends not only the body, > but consciousness as well, > > since consciousness > is a by-product of the body. > > > > The consciousness no longer says, > " I am, I am. " > > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Tim, I read " Consciousness and the Absolute, " as " Brahman and Parabrahman. " And, of course, you are right, Parabrahman is not a " state of anything " . El Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 .....The only thing that I ever thought seemed unusual about Nisargadatta was his always referring to the Absolute or Brahman as a 'state' ........ Maharaj said before, IT is not a state, don't get caught up in the words, have to use words to speak, and still not IT. IT pervades all states. - Omkara Nisargadatta Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:13 AM Re: A REAL SPIRITUAL SEEKER.....C & A 1-30-81 The only thing that I ever thought seemed unusual about Nisargadatta was his always referring to the Absolute or Brahman as a 'state' (which it can't be, by definition or otherwise) -- I wonder if it has to do with the translation...Namaste,TimNisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote:> > Consciousness and the Absolute> January 30, 1981. P.M.> > > > A real spiritual seeker > ponders over these things> all the time.> > When I have no body,> what am I?> > What is the Ultimate Reality?> > > > The Absolute state cannot be > explained by words.> > Words are only pointers.> > You are that Absolute, > Unchanging Consciousness,> or the Knowingness,> which is homogeneous and one only.> > When you are in that > state of consciousness,> it is all one, all the same state,> only the expressions are different.> > > > Everything which gets consumed, > exhausted, is unreal.> > Your knowingness will, in due course, > be consumed, will disappear, > so it can not be real.> > But you can not just dismiss it.> > You must understand it fully.> > > > Presently there are an infinite > number of items in your > association with this world,> > because you have the association > of the vital breath.> > > Suppose that vital breath goes.> > What will happen then to > all your associations> with the world.> > > > This knowledge which > has been expounded> will not go to waste.> > Many people have taken > advantage of it.> > The time will come when > they will be enlightened also, > and then they will expound > knowledge.> > > > A Jnani's state remains the same, > with or without the body.> > > > You should meditate, > you should not lose> what you have learned.> > > > When one disidentifies > with the body,> one transcends not only the body,> but consciousness as well,> > since consciousness > is a by-product of the body.> > > > The consciousness no longer says,> "I am, I am."> > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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