What's the problem?

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Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta, " Melody " <melody@s...> wrote:

> > I see 'vegging out', riding the rollar coaster

> > ride of 'relationships', alcohol and drug

> > use, corporate ladder climbing, etc. as very much the

> > same kind of earnest 'doingness' as going to therapy,

> > sitting 'zazen', or sitting at the feet of a Master.

>

> Agreed. But I would suggest that it's just this kind of

> earnest 'doing' that seems to prevent any kind of 'deeper'

> experience. The seeking is the 'problem', because there is nothing

> to find that isn't already here/now.

>

> Nisargadatta did not recommend earnest doing, he recommended

earnest

> *Being*. His entire recommendation was to spend as much time as

> possible simply remaining with the 'touch of Beingness' or I

> AMness... and that's all.

 

 

 

Is it the 'doing' or the 'lack of depth of experience'

that is the 'problem'? Or is it the sense of 'doer-ship'?

 

Ramesh Balsekar says Nisargadatta would

respond to questions asked, " what should I *do* "

thusly :

 

" Who is the 'one' who thinks he must do

something - and to achieve what? Once it

is understood that an entity is merely an

erroneous concept, that a body like any

other phenomenon is merely an experience

in consciousness, and that there is no one

to exercise any volition, where is the

question of anyone *doing* anything?

Understanding - apperception - is all. "

 

" When the 'me' disappears, you are I. "

 

" It doesn't matter what you do so long as you

have truly understood what I am talking about.

In another way, it also does not matter if you

have not understood what I am talking about! "

 

Ramesh follows up: " Obviously the point is that all

our past experiences, if carefully analyzed, would

clearly show that our lives, instead of being

lived * by* us as we seem to think, are in

fact being lived *for* us like all the characters

in one's dream and that, therefore, volition is

really not a significant factor in our lives. "

 

Namaste,

Melody