Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 jb asks: >And has anyone here, seen first hand, the end of suffering ? Well, the ego takes a beating, but that is what it is here for... :-) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Nisargadatta, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@s...> wrote: > jb asks: > > >And has anyone here, seen first hand, the end of suffering ? > > Well, the ego takes a beating, but that is what it is here for... :- ) > > Paul Hi. I have only seen the end of suffering in my mind, when I choose not to belive in it anymore! I think if it can go away so easly by so called shining lite on it, it must not be real. It can feel real, but then it stops. So are feelings real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Nisargadatta, " Gabriel " <xenawanta> wrote: > Hi. I have only seen the end of suffering in my mind, Here's the same confusion.. 'my mind'... the 'my' is thought, or is the mind. Unless it's just the English language, and this is understood. > when I > choose not to belive in it anymore! There is no entity that chooses to believe or not believe. That entity *is itself* the belief, and when it drops, that indicates belief has dropped. > I think if it can go away so > easly by so called shining lite on it, it must not be real. It can > feel real, but then it stops. So are feelings real? Just as 'real' as thoughts. What does the word 'real' mean to you, take your pick... Namaste, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:50:26 -0000, you wrote: > Hi. I have only seen the end of suffering in my mind, when I >choose not to belive in it anymore! I think if it can go away so >easly by so called shining lite on it, it must not be real. It can >feel real, but then it stops. So are feelings real? Everything becomes easy when we allow ourselves to become Ourselves. Figuring it all out keeps it from happening. 'Real' is what you make it. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Only one 'complaint' about this... " Ourselves " can only be singular. I would rephrase it " when we allow self to become Self. " I don't know if that was your intent, but I've seen this sort of verbal 'mistake' before... someone posted some paraphrase of Nisargadatta saying " The only difference between us is that I've found my natural state, but you haven't found your natural state, " or something like that. My reply: " There couldn't be 7 billion (human) " natural states " walking around and talking to one another " <laugh>... Cheers, Tim Nisargadatta, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@s...> wrote: > Everything becomes easy when we allow ourselves to become Ourselves. > Figuring it all out keeps it from happening. > 'Real' is what you make it. > > Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:30:06 -0000, you wrote: >Only one 'complaint' about this... " Ourselves " can only be singular. >I would rephrase it " when we allow self to become Self. " Hi Tim. I say: " Whatever works! " :-) Paul >I don't know if that was your intent, but I've seen this sort of >verbal 'mistake' before... someone posted some paraphrase of >Nisargadatta saying " The only difference between us is that I've >found my natural state, but you haven't found your natural state, " or >something like that. > >My reply: " There couldn't be 7 billion (human) " natural states " >walking around and talking to one another " <laugh>... > >Cheers, > >Tim > >Nisargadatta, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@s...> wrote: >> Everything becomes easy when we allow ourselves to become Ourselves. >> Figuring it all out keeps it from happening. >> 'Real' is what you make it. >> >> Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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