Thinking..Outch!

[Guest guest]

Hi group just sharing some thoughts again! :-)

You know the mind is very Facinating!! I perfer not to

give it up, but now I am seeing it is not who I am.

well........I am attached to it, but the hold it use to

have on me is lessing!! Sooooo I was " thinking " about how

fasinating the human episode is. It is funny how we have

this life and then we make thousands and thousands of

Moive's and television shows to watch about it. Made up

illusions of owerselfs!! So the illusion is makeing up

illusions!! The illusion likes to imanigine it is watching

itself! Hahahahah ! Also all the shows are mostly

about, people just doing things and we find this

facinating. Wow. I am either watching a show on TV or in

life or I find I am in the show! hahaha... I love to try

and fiqure this stuff out, the key word to that is TRY,

cause, that is all that you can do. It leads to No where!

Where is really where we are... hmmmmmmmm

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta, " Gabriel " <xenawanta> wrote:

> Hi group just sharing some thoughts again! :-)

> You know the mind is very Facinating!! I perfer not to

> give it up, but now I am seeing it is not who I am.

> well........I am attached to it, but the hold it use to

> have on me is lessing!!

 

Not to be nit-picky, but confused by your words. How are " you "

separate from " the mind? " Isn't the sense of " me " a thought or idea

in the mind? Very much confused by this.

 

> Sooooo I was " thinking " about how

> fasinating the human episode is. It is funny how we have

> this life and then we make thousands and thousands of

> Moive's and television shows to watch about it. Made up

> illusions of owerselfs!! So the illusion is makeing up

> illusions!! The illusion likes to imanigine it is watching

> itself! Hahahahah !

 

That's how it always seems to happen, the " I " appears in two's. For

example, take the word " myself " -- " my self. " Are there two selves,

and one owns the other?

 

And even " itself " .. " it self " ... What it?

 

Namaste,

 

Tim

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim!

 

You address the basic illusion by

which self seems to have separated

from body, " thought " from " object

of thought " -- by which there's a

" me " having " my experience "

an " I " with a " mind " , a

present self and a remembered

self, and an " observer " encountering

" something observed " ...

 

As this basic illusion ends,

and the assorted delusions

that attach, what else

is there to begin or end?

How real can be any beginning

or ending, with no one apart

to judge the situation?

Where apart from

one could there be to go, and

who would go there?

 

What further concern about

ending illusion could there

be, with no one existing

apart to escape? The

separation between illusion

and reality is itself unreal,

with no separable observer

of states.

Namaste,

Dan

 

 

Nisargadatta,

" Gabriel " <xenawanta> wrote:

> Hi group just sharing some thoughts again! :-)

> You know the mind is very Facinating!! I

perfer not to

> give it up, but now I am seeing it is not who I am.

> well........I am attached to it, but the hold it use to

> have on me is lessing!!

 

Not to be nit-picky, but confused by your words. How are

" you "

separate from " the mind? " Isn't the sense of

" me " a thought or idea

in the mind? Very much confused by this.

 

> Sooooo I was " thinking " about how

> fasinating the human episode is. It is funny how we have

> this life and then we make thousands and thousands of

> Moive's and television shows to watch about it. Made up

> illusions of owerselfs!! So the illusion is makeing up

> illusions!! The illusion likes to imanigine it is watching

> itself! Hahahahah !

 

That's how it always seems to happen, the " I " appears in

two's. For

example, take the word " myself " -- " my self. "

Are there two selves,

and one owns the other?

 

And even " itself " .. " it self " ... What it?

 

Namaste,

 

Tim

[Guest guest]

> Nisargadatta, " Gabriel " <xenawanta> wrote:

> > Hi group just sharing some thoughts again! :-)

> > You know the mind is very Facinating!! I perfer not to

> > give it up, but now I am seeing it is not who I am.

> > well........I am attached to it, but the hold it use to

> > have on me is lessing!!

>

> Not to be nit-picky, but confused by your words. How are " you "

> separate from " the mind? " Isn't the sense of " me " a thought or idea

> in the mind? Very much confused by this.

 

 

 

For me, Tim, it was easy many years ago to see

that there was a sense of " me " that was not my mind.

 

How could I tell?

 

I could *watch* my thoughts.....*listen to* the

chattering of my mind....and realized that

" me " and the object of my attention were TWO.

 

(I know, I know....one's an illusion, blah, blah,

blah. <lol> Maybe you get the point anyway?)

 

 

That's the first time I knew that the 'me'

that was watching was not the thoughts

I was thinking.

 

Of course I'd have to be reminded of

that a couple thousand times. LOL

 

 

Cheerios,

 

Melody