Can suffering be ended by the mind?

[Guest guest]

The attempt to end suffering

requires a conditioned

entity, a continuing being

moving from the past into

the future, and affected

by conditions

that negate self.

 

When the delusion of a continuing

entity ends, suffering ends,

as does the illusion of being

able to move from point a

to point b, to get somewhere

else where suffering is not ...

 

The unconditioned is not a being,

is not continuing, doesn't

move from here to there,

isn't a thought or a feeling,

doesn't have beliefs and disbeliefs.

 

Dan

 

 

Nisargadatta, Paul

Misiunas <misiunas@s...> wrote:

> jb asks:

>

> >And has anyone here, seen first hand, the end of suffering

?

>

> Well, the ego takes a beating, but that is what it is here for...

:-

)

>

> Paul

 

Hi. I have only seen the end of suffering in my mind,

when I

choose not to belive in it anymore! I think if it can go away so

easly by so called shining lite on it, it must not be real. It can

feel real, but then it stops. So are feelings real?

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim --

 

When clarity is that the conditioning

and the entity are not-two,

there is nothing there to be deconditioned,

nor can there ever be anything separate

from " conditions " .

 

So, nothing moves from a to be, from

having been conditioned to being

de-conditioned.

 

The unconditioned that " all-ways " is,

neither is nor is not,

never was, never came into being, never will

come into being, nor go out of being

(or style).

 

Blessed be,

as neither being nor not-being,

 

Dan

 

Hi Dan,

 

As seen from here, the conditioning and the entity are not two -- in

 

fact it could be said they're the same thing.

 

This makes 'deconditioning' possible... although not as a goal or

ideal.

 

Namaste,

 

Tim

 

Nisargadatta, Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

> The attempt to end suffering

> requires a conditioned

> entity, a continuing being

> moving from the past into

> the future, and affected

> by conditions

> that negate self.