Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Dear Dan, This illusion really seems to have been 'seen through'. Lately, the various word usages seem almost to 'jump off the page' (also in spoken conversation), like " my mind " and such. It's impossible to ignore these, because they don't make any sense. How does 'self' stand apart and observe 'self'? This is something that makes no sense. Never mind whether the 'self' is 'real' or not, how about just answering that one, can somebody help?? :-) Namaste, Tim Nisargadatta, Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote: > Hi Tim! > > You address the basic illusion by > which self seems to have separated > from body, " thought " from " object > of thought " -- by which there's a > " me " having " my experience " > an " I " with a " mind " , a > present self and a remembered > self, and an " observer " encountering > " something observed " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Hi Tim! How does 'self' stand apart and observe 'self'? A great mystery. How is it that memory can say, " I remember being in a room with you yesterday " , in way which not only involves the perception of a self noticing itself in a room, but a self looking at its memory of itself, remembering how it was thinking about whether or not to speak, due to something it remembered about itself and the person to whom it was speaking? Acutely observed, the paradox is incredible. Without acute observation, it's just accepted as the way things actually are. This is something that makes no sense. Never mind whether the 'self' is 'real' or not, how about just answering that one, can somebody help?? :-) The functioning of memory and thought construct an apparently tangible reality of time and space, requiring the appearance of an " observer " to whom " events, feelings, and perceptions occur " ... For the " observer " to seem to appear, along with time, space, and substance, there must be a self noticing itself, as memory functions in a way that constructs time. Namaste, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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