Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 NondualitySalon, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote: Hi Kir Li Molari, From one viewpoint this seems the case... yet the 'experience' is not 'it'. " It " being always everpresent Here Now, what could an experience indicate? How can you say *at one point* in the eternal present (eternal present containing no points)? How could something not involving time or space " Realize itself " nowhere, at no time? Truly, there is no describing in words... neither " Enlightenment " nor " Realization " are precise at all, both fall far off the mark. Some use terms like " instantaneous " to describe this, but that is not accurate. Some use terms like " gradual, " that is not accurate either. Nothing ever happened -- that is a little closer, but still not accurate. " Realization, " that is the exact point that words fail. That is where words fall off, where they do not reach. But what else can be used for speaking, but words? Everyone (including the so-called " enlightened " ) has to resort to these foolish symbols called " words " to describe something that can't be described... and so they lie, but as closely to the truth as possible. And believe it... that is still very far away. Nobody ever believes it can't be described, either. If more would accept the fact, there would be less talking about it... but since nobody does, endless speculation abounds, most of it confusing the issue even more. Namaste, Omkara NondualitySalon, medit8@m... wrote: > Enlightenment is not as precise a term as Realization for the most > precious experience. The light is always here, now. At one point in > the eternal present, This is realized. > > Kir Li Molari --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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