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Dear JB789@h...

 

Are you that hopeless?

 

Run any " Search Engine " on " dear abby "

for hundreds of listings on computer in

any languages, in any countries.

 

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ANetofJewels

 

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Date:  Wed Apr 4, 2001 9:41am

Subject:  Re: the final truth

 

 

 

ANetofJewels, ejLight@L... wrote:

> Greetings JB, you wrote:

> ->But now, reaching a point of being beyond

spiritually-advanced,

> ->that this level is too dumb for me..

>

> Interesting. Then, it would seem, that any question is of

little

> sense. As would be any answer. Or any questioner or any

answerer.

>

> ->will have to ask :

> ->'but What _is " consciousness " ..

> ->So what shall I do Sir ?..

>

> Perhaps it is in BEing rather than doing, or even in the

knowing of

> such.

>

> ->would you kindly show it to me ?

>

> Can the eyeball see itself ?

 

Thanks for the reply. Also thanks to Dan.

If I combine your 2 pointers, it seems to amount to the

suggestion:

Just Being a dummy.

You also add : 'Can the eyeball see itself ?'

Makes sense.

 

However there must be another sort of preceiving of

'consciousness'..

otherwise how could a Ramesh declare : 'There is only

consciousness..

everything is consciousness' ?.

 

I am not trying to play logical games and

I hope, my question is not too irritatingly dumb.

Have a pleasant day,

jb.

 

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3792 Re: the final truth Daniel Berkow Wed 4/4/2001

3794 Re: the final truth ejLight@L... Thu 4/5/2001

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Date:  Wed Apr 4, 2001 9:58am

Subject:  Re: A Net of Jewels April 4

 

 

 

ANetofJewels, " Manuel V. Hernandez "

<manuel1498>

wrote:

> A NET of JEWELS

> daily meditations for seekers of Truth

> RAMESH S. BALSEKAR

> http://www.advaita.org

 

>

> April 4

 

> Self, experienced in the ego less state, is the supreme Reality.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

> My relative absence is my absolute presence. The moment of

death

will be

> the moment of highest ecstasy, the last sensorial perception of

the

> psychosomatic apparatus.

>

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Concerning the last quotation about death,.. does anyone know

whether

Ramesh has said anything about this, being the case

_regardless of

whether one has realized the fact of consciousness during

before the

physical death ?

 

I am thinking of some litterature that insists on the value

of 'realizing' _before death,.. otherwise one will not be able to

recognize what is shown at the moment of death and so one will

miss

the point (= sin).

 

Since my ex-wife and best friend died a few months ago of

cancer, I

must admit that I do have her in mind when I ask this.

She's been interested in 'truth' for many years, like me, but I

cannot say that she 'realized'.. though during the last months of

her

life, she certainly had a Presence and an, obvious to me, utter

dwelling in the now-moment.

That 'perfume' of being, is still with me.

 

Apart from this, the disappearance called death, I find

incomprehensible.

Not even 50 years of age, and she cannot be contacted

anylonger.

Not even an email address !..

Just a stone in the cemetery.

Where did she go ?!

I do, at times, miss her.

 

jb.

 

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