Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Before I left for Maine, I was telling you all about when I felt like I betrayed Maharaj because I had gone to see his Guru brother, Bhai Nath Maharaj. After sharing with Maharaj the whole of it, he laughed and said, " Oh no, you are free to see anyone! " I had taken his question " Are you going to roam about? " as an injunction not to seek and was too literal about it. My translator, Mr. Mullarpattan smiled and told me that J. Krishnamurti was going to be speaking that very evening. Now, I never really felt much interest in Krishnamurti but I was curious. Even in Maharaj's loft there was a line drawing of Krishnamurti. People seemed to speak about Krishnamurti with reverance. I remember there was even some talk about attempting a meeting between Maharaj and Krishnamurti. I was told it never happened because Krishnamurti's car could not fit down Ketwadi Lane. This may have been wishful thinking, not really what happened. It was a very interesting scene. I went with my tanslator friend, Mr. Mullarpattan. It was held out of doors,in a kind of open park. There were many Rajneesh Sanyassins and afluent,young, intellectual Indians. Krishnamurti seemed peaceful, beautiful but fretful. There was a hillarious scene where he was saying " Nowadays the pressures of society deform the brain, we can't even see the birds. " Meanwhile behind him there was a bird caught in a kite string. The Bombay Fire Department was trying to free it while buzzards were circling the poor trapped bird. It was a real Keystone Kops kind of a scene. And I thought, " Krishnamurti, you are so caught up in your imagery of nature you can't see the birds as they really are! " Next morning after speaking to Maharaj he said " Krishnamurti is a great thinker " I took that in a negative context while the rest of the folks thought he was complimenting Krishnamurti.I looked into Maharaj's eyes. I felt a oneness.I had to agree, Krishnamurti was a great thinker. To be continued.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Hi Cathy! I understand there was a meeting once between Nisargadatta and U.G. Krishnamurti (his inevitable comment -- " I just met a man " ). I've read about it from the " U.G. side, " do you have any knowledge or commentary about what it was like from another angle? Namaste, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Were you one with his " professional jealousy " too? LOL! Not that there's nothing to what he said. There usually is something to anything said. And sure " great realized sages " are beyond jealousy, anxiety, and any of the feelings that would mark them as similar to mere unrealized mortals, and any remarks they make are for our learning -- but then " great realized sages " are just another image from the great " image-making factory " , as " we " are ;-) ;-) The guru business is so demanding. Competitors everywhere! To live where there is no competition whatsoever -- no guru will take you there ... for if there could be a guru there, there could be someone to compete with -- any teacher may catalyze " it " with a remark -- K. or N. or Joe and Sally up the street, and so may a bird chirping, or even one being hauled out of a tree, and even " nothing at all " ... Love, Dan Before I left for Maine, I was telling you all about when I felt like I betrayed Maharaj because I had gone to see his Guru brother, Bhai Nath Maharaj. After sharing with Maharaj the whole of it, he laughed and said, " Oh no, you are free to see anyone! " I had taken his question " Are you going to roam about? " as an injunction not to seek and was too literal about it. My translator, Mr. Mullarpattan smiled and told me that J. Krishnamurti was going to be speaking that very evening. Now, I never really felt much interest in Krishnamurti but I was curious. Even in Maharaj's loft there was a line drawing of Krishnamurti. People seemed to speak about Krishnamurti with reverance. I remember there was even some talk about attempting a meeting between Maharaj and Krishnamurti. I was told it never happened because Krishnamurti's car could not fit down Ketwadi Lane. This may have been wishful thinking, not really what happened. It was a very interesting scene. I went with my tanslator friend, Mr. Mullarpattan. It was held out of doors,in a kind of open park. There were many Rajneesh Sanyassins and afluent,young, intellectual Indians. Krishnamurti seemed peaceful, beautiful but fretful. There was a hillarious scene where he was saying " Nowadays the pressures of society deform the brain, we can't even see the birds. " Meanwhile behind him there was a bird caught in a kite string. The Bombay Fire Department was trying to free it while buzzards were circling the poor trapped bird. It was a real Keystone Kops kind of a scene. And I thought, " Krishnamurti, you are so caught up in your imagery of nature you can't see the birds as they really are! " Next morning after speaking to Maharaj he said " Krishnamurti is a great thinker " I took that in a negative context while the rest of the folks thought he was complimenting Krishnamurti.I looked into Maharaj's eyes. I felt a oneness.I had to agree, Krishnamurti was a great thinker. To be continued.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote: > > Hi Cathy! > > I understand there was a meeting once between Nisargadatta and U.G. > Krishnamurti (his inevitable comment -- " I just met a man " ). I've > read about it from the " U.G. side, " do you have any knowledge or > commentary about what it was like from another angle? > > Namaste, > > Tim Sorry Tim, I never heard about that one. Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Hi Skye - Nice to hear from you again. Where'd my face go? There's no mirror here ... Love, Dan Greetings Dan and everyone, They only matter in so much as we realise they are our own face. Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 - Daniel Berkow <berkowd > Were you one with his > " professional jealousy " too? LOL! > We're dealing with images of persons here, > either way, mine of N., yours of N., > N.'s of K. -- how much do these really matter? Greetings Dan and everyone, They only matter in so much as we realise they are our own face. Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Dan wrote: > Were you one with his > " professional jealousy " too? LOL! > We're dealing with images of persons here, > either way, mine of N., yours of N., > N.'s of K. -- how much do these really matter? Greetings Dan and everyone, They only matter in so much as we realise they are our own face. Skye Hi Skye - Nice to hear from you again. Thank you kind sir. Where'd my face go? There's no mirror here ... Love, Dan :-) you can't fool us Dan :-) As the Sufi's say " There is nowhere to turn to avert your face " . You are what you say, what you imagine in others and what you deny. Its all good fun :-) Peace Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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