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Hi Tim --

 

Enjoying your comment.

 

Perhaps Maharaj seemed

to arise and make a comment,

just as everything else seems

to arise, and just as our comments

here seem to arise.

 

What can be commented upon really,

when there is no " outside " in which

to be situated to comment?

 

From here -- there is no " perhaps " about it --

it's the same " seeming to arise "

and there's no more of a " doer "

" judger " " chooser " there, in Maharaj,

then here in " me " , or there in " you "

or in " Cathy " or " El " , or.. or ..

 

Love,

Dan

 

Being a great thinker probably

means something different to whoever

hears the phrase. Here is a quote from my website, 'as Omkara sees

 

it':

 

" There are seeming levels to communication, but it is not so. Two

 

winos discussing where to get their next drink is the same as two

math professors discussing the integral calculus. Communion is

happening in both cases, and in both cases the words are extra, just

 

an excuse for the communion to be, a carrier or transmitter of the

communion. "

 

What it meant to Nisargadatta (if anything), and whether it was a

compliment or not, undoubtedly will remain forever unknown.

 

Perhaps he just felt it appropriate to make a comment at the time, so

 

as to acknowledge Krishnamurti for the 'benefit' of those present.

 

Love,

 

Tim

 

Nisargadatta, cathywb@p... wrote:

> Dear Elizabeth and Tim,

> I was definitely making a judgement, now and at the time. I was

 

> comparing J. Krishnamurti and Maharaj. As for Maharaj, I do not

 

> think he was making a judgement. He was just stating

> fact, " Krishnamurti is a great thinker. " But what does

being a

> great thinker mean and is that a compliment as everyone else

> present assumed?

> Cathy

>

>

> Nisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote:

> > Nisargadatta, " Omkara "

<coresite@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Could it be that Maharaj was just stating a fact?

Why does a

> > comment

> > > have to be tainted with dualistic opposites like 'good'

and

> > 'bad'?

> >

> > ------

> > Tim:

> >

> > Point well taken.

> >

> > But I don't know Maharaj didn't use this

> > good-bad approach as a teaching tool

> > with some people who came to him.

> > I wasn't there.

> >

> > However I did not find him using it

> > in the books. Had he, I would not have

> > been attracted to him.

> >

> > Also be careful.

> >

> > You mistook me using " sick puppies " as

> > a good-bad judgment, and it wasn't.

> > It was simply a fact based on my growing

> > up in a similar situation as UG.

> >

> > A lot of folks take UG as judgemental.

> > I don't.

> >

> >

> > Maybe Cathy is making judgments.

> > Maybe she isn't and it is just symantics.

> >

> > In any case, asking WHY JUDGMENTS OF GOOD

> > AND BAD ARE MADE, is a question as to which

> > you already know the answer.

> >

> > El

> >

> >

> > .

 

 

 

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Dan is fiction.

 

I see you.

 

Yes, reality.

 

Love,

Who you are

 

At 06:31 PM 4/11/01 +0000, you wrote:

 

Tim,

 

Do you think maybe,

" Dan " is hiding behind REALITY?

 

El

 

 

 

Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Dan,

>

> Frankly, I'm just a little weary of yours, as of late. What

 

> does " From here -- " mean? Why not just go ahead and

say

" as I see

> it? " It means the same thing, it's the same

language.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Tim

>

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