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not exactly a " pointer " from Advaita but.....

 

(# 5 guideline of 10)

 

Drive Your Karma, Curb Your Dogma

 

Swami Beyondananda's Guidelines for Enlightenment

 

 

5. It is true. As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought

particles tend to get caught between our ears, causing a condition called

truth decay. So be sure to use mental floss twice a day. And when you're

tempted to practice tantrum yoga, remember what we teach in Swami's

Absurdiiveness Training class: " Don't get even, get odd. "

 

 

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" D. Sirjue " <dsirju

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, April 27, 2001 5:24 AM

Re: Beyond

 

 

 

Hiyall,

>

> Namaste to all. This is my first peek into this

> intriguing forum. Already I recognise some familiar

> 'faces'.

> ..and good point Michael- where is this 'beyond' located

> or rather, is there a 'beyond' in the first place ?

> I know of one dude who calls himself Beyondananda,

> or something like that. He actually thinks he found

> some state beyond, I don't know.

> ..and Tim (it's always nice crossing paths again)

> your clarification regarding 'beyond' might shed

> some light on this matter.

>

> ~dave

>

 

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Hi Tim:

 

How is beyond experienced?

 

Beyond sounds like something that is not here.

 

If it's not here, where is it?

 

Confused.....again.......:-))))))))),

 

Michael

 

 

At 12:51 AM 4/27/01 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Hi Tony,

>

>This seems " all good " from an intellectual standpoint, but

>Understanding is beyond the mind, beyond thought, beyond 'my words'

>or 'your words' on the subject. Even beyond Nisargadatta's words.

>

>One of 'my favorite words' lately has been " beyond, " because there's

>nothing else that describes Understanding. It's just " Beyond. "

>Even " it's " isn't a useful pointer, because 'it' isn't an 'it'.

>

>Just knowing mentally that " everything perceivable and conceivable is

>unreal " is not " that Understanding which can't be spoken about. "

>

>Namaste,

>

>Tim

>

>Nisargadatta, " Tony O'Clery " <aoclery> wrote:

>> Namaste All,

>>

>> My take is that hurt feelings are due to erroneous localisation of

>> illusory consciousness or ego. Its real whilst one is in it, said

>> Sankara. They are just energy movements, upon which we give a name

>> and attribute.

>> Maharaj doesn't go on much about anything but Praneaswara, or

>Saguna

>> Brahman. Indicating that we are just whirlpools in that great

>> illusion.

>> Again volition is just karma being acted out anyway, with no moving

>> from us. We are imagining we are doing what was going to be done,

>or

>> rather has been is being done already. We get illusory karma from

>the

>> delusion of action in a non existant energy universe.

>>

>> Om Namah Sivaya....Tony.

>

>

>

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Nisargadatta, " Michael D. Johnson " <michael@p...> wrote:

 

> Hi Tim:

>

> How is beyond experienced?

 

Taking " beyond " to point to Understanding, or " There is only X "

(those incomprehensible statements sometimes uttered by those foolish

enough to utter them) --

 

It's not an 'it', and 'it' isn't experienced (the limitations of

language already making themselves apparent)...

 

Only this can be said (as a gross approximation): IT IS,

and 'everything else' is a sort of dull, faded smudge.

 

> Beyond sounds like something that is not here.

 

Oh no... " it's here. " But nothing else really is :-).

 

Love,

 

Tim

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" Michael D. Johnson " <michael

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, April 27, 2001 6:35 AM

Beyond

 

 

> Hi Tim:

>

> How is beyond experienced?

>

> Beyond sounds like something that is not here.

>

> If it's not here, where is it?

>

> Confused.....again.......:-))))))))),

>

> Michael

 

Hiyall,

 

Namaste to all. This is my first peek into this

intriguing forum. Already I recognise some familiar

'faces'.

...and good point Michael- where is this 'beyond' located

or rather, is there a 'beyond' in the first place ?

I know of one dude who calls himself Beyondananda,

or something like that. He actually thinks he found

some state beyond, I don't know.

...and Tim (it's always nice crossing paths again)

your clarification regarding 'beyond' might shed

some light on this matter.

 

~dave

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Hi Dave:

 

Nice to hear from you again.

 

Hope all is well!

 

Namaste,

 

Michael

 

At 09:24 AM 4/27/01 -0400, you wrote:

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> " Michael D. Johnson " <michael

><Nisargadatta >

>Friday, April 27, 2001 6:35 AM

> Beyond

>

>

>> Hi Tim:

>>

>> How is beyond experienced?

>>

>> Beyond sounds like something that is not here.

>>

>> If it's not here, where is it?

>>

>> Confused.....again.......:-))))))))),

>>

>> Michael

>

>Hiyall,

>

>Namaste to all. This is my first peek into this

>intriguing forum. Already I recognise some familiar

>'faces'.

>..and good point Michael- where is this 'beyond' located

>or rather, is there a 'beyond' in the first place ?

>I know of one dude who calls himself Beyondananda,

>or something like that. He actually thinks he found

>some state beyond, I don't know.

>..and Tim (it's always nice crossing paths again)

>your clarification regarding 'beyond' might shed

>some light on this matter.

>

>~dave

>

>

>

>

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>

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