Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 continuing... ...."But a Jnani is not of this world. They are omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient. If a person advertises himself or herself, makes TV appearances, goes on the radio, writes a lot of books and so forth, you can be assured that person is not a Jnani. That's the first clue to let you know. Why? There has to be a personal I to do these things. In the Jnani there is no personal I. The personal I has been killed. So how can the Jnani act like a personal I and make public appearances and do all these things? Think about that. There is no ambition left in a Jnani, there are no goals. A Jnani never goes out of their way to teach classes. And the last thing they want to do is build up the classes, to attract hundreds of people. It's not necessary. ....Even if the devotee lives in China or in Japan or Africa, the vibration of the Jnani is such that he or she will be attracted and sooner or later will come in contact with the last stage of their life, which is the Sage. ... What is a Jnani, a Sage? To come up with that answer is the question, what is not a Sage? A Sage is never a yogi or a spiritual teacher, or a meditation teacher. I use the term Sage and Jnani, interchangeabley. A Sage has absolutely no teaching to give you whatsoever. The idea is just to be in the presence of the Sage, that does the teaching....For all teachings are from the mind. Where else would they come from? They are all mental concepts. The Sage is beyond the mind, beyond the mental concepts.... The term Sage is loosely termed. By Sage is meant All-Pervading, everywhere present. So to be in contact with the Sage, all you have to do is think about the Sage, and you're in contact with the Sage...." (a downloaded satsang where Nisargadatta and Ramesh are brought up and Robert's response in www.leelaa.net September 1990 I Am Not the Body Satsang 900928 8 If you decide to check this out, I would suggest listening to it in it's entirety to be able to fully glean what Robert is saying (at a certain point there are a lot of conversations going on over Robert) His is the monotone voice with a New York accent. ~jessica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 Jess, Yes, the other day I was telling someone, it is not possible for a " Real One " to write a book. But only a " Real One " would know that. --------------------- Nisargadatta, " Jessica White " <ellam-ondre@h...> wrote: > continuing... > ... " But a Jnani is not of this world. They are omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient. > If a person advertises himself or herself, makes TV appearances, goes on the radio, writes a lot of books and so forth, you can be assured that person is not a Jnani. That's the first clue to let you know. Why? There has to be a personal I to do these things. In the Jnani there is no personal I. The personal I has been killed. So how can the Jnani act like a personal I and make public appearances and do all these things? Think about that. There is no ambition left in a Jnani, there are no goals. A Jnani never goes out of their way to teach classes. And the last thing they want to do is build up the classes, to attract hundreds of people. It's not necessary. > > ...Even if the devotee lives in China or in Japan or Africa, the vibration of the Jnani is such that he or she will be attracted and sooner or later will come in contact with the last stage of their life, which is the Sage. ... > > What is a Jnani, a Sage? To come up with that answer is the question, what is not a Sage? A Sage is never a yogi or a spiritual teacher, or a meditation teacher. I use the term Sage and Jnani, interchangeabley. A Sage has absolutely no teaching to give you whatsoever. The idea is just to be in the presence of the Sage, that does the teaching....For all teachings are from the mind. Where else would they come from? They are all mental concepts. The Sage is beyond the mind, beyond the mental concepts.... > > The term Sage is loosely termed. By Sage is meant All-Pervading, everywhere present. So to be in contact with the Sage, all you have to do is think about the Sage, and you're in contact with the Sage.... " > > > > (a downloaded satsang where Nisargadatta and Ramesh are brought up and Robert's response in www.leelaa.net September 1990 I Am Not the Body > Satsang 900928 8 > > If you decide to check this out, I would suggest listening to it in it's entirety to be able to fully glean what Robert is saying (at a certain point there are a lot of conversations going on over Robert) > > His is the monotone voice with a New York accent. > > ~jessica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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