Andrew/A view from the flipside

[Guest guest]

Hi Andrew,

 

The " Rat-race " need for success and recognition, the many scattered

desires and wants and needs -- easy to fall into, if one isn't out of

the hustle and bustle of the world of humans on a regular basis :-).

 

What's the point? The body is going to die, it began dying at the

moment of birth. So whatever judgments you want to make as far

as " quietistic escapism " <laugh>... please be my guest :-). Often it

turns out to be a case of jealousy and nothing more... " You're so

lucky you don't have to work " <loud laugh>.

 

Cheers,

 

Tim

 

Nisargadatta, andrew macnab <a.macnab@n...> wrote:

> Quietistic escapism is easy to fall into, if one isn't out in the

> hustle and bustle of the world of humans on a regular basis.

>

> andrew

[Guest guest]

Tim, I would ask you to be a little careful here. This is what I would

call an insensitive reply.

I am full time (24/7) caregiver of my invalid mother in law. In addition,

my wife and I have adopted our five year old granddaughter, who because

of an extremely premature birth (birth weight one pound eleven ounces) is

blind, developmentally delayed and non-verbal. Yes, in the hustle and

bustle of human needs, it is easy to fall into the " rat race "

as you put it. Perhaps you would like to trade places with me and see if

you do any better. I personally find it a real challenge to meditate

without falling asleep because I am exhausted. I find it a real challenge

to even read these emails without falling asleep, to speak nothing of

trying to control my mind and stay centered.

It may sound as though I am landing on you, but I am not. This is where I

have some problems with this nondualism philosophy. Oh, it may be that

all of this is an illusion. It may be that my mind presents me with

problems that are not real and all I have to do is extinguish my mind

then I too can float around in lala land like you do. But I do want to

know, while I am floating around in lala land, who is going to shower my

mother in law and wipe her butt? Who is going to take the grandchild to

her many clinic and therapy appointments? Who is going to change her

diapers since she is still incontinent. Who is going to get up two or

three times during the night with either or both of them and then go

without a nap the next day?

Really, guys, I am trying my best to repeat to myself " Who am

I " and " I am " all day long and somehow see that all of

this is an illusion and not real. But I get real sore sometimes about the

glib remarks I see from people who live in caves and have somehow managed

to accept responsibilities in life that are neither easy to execute nor

easy to walk away from. Please try to be sensitive. There are people who

still have their feet on the ground and have " real " problems.

Yes, " real " problems. The kind of problems that, if you take

the attitude it doesn't matter, what you call quietistic

escapism, someone is going to get hurt or go without adequate

care.

Thanks for listening. I have had a very difficult week and I am burned

out. I needed to say that. Now I can get back to chanting " Ohm "

as I start putting people to bed, myself included.

Beck

 

At 07:35 PM 5/16/01 , you wrote:

 

Hi Andrew,

 

The " Rat-race " need for success and recognition, the many

scattered

desires and wants and needs -- easy to fall into, if one isn't out of

 

the hustle and bustle of the world of humans on a regular basis :-).

 

What's the point? The body is going to die, it began dying at the

 

moment of birth. So whatever judgments you want to make as far

 

as " quietistic escapism " <laugh>... please be my guest

:-). Often it

turns out to be a case of jealousy and nothing more... " You're so

 

lucky you don't have to work " <loud laugh>.

 

Cheers,

 

Tim

 

Nisargadatta, andrew macnab <a.macnab@n...> wrote:

> Quietistic escapism is easy to fall into, if one isn't out in the

 

> hustle and bustle of the world of humans on a regular basis.

>

> andrew

 

 

 

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