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Nisargadatta, " D. Sirjue " <dsirju@n...> wrote:

> This " I " has learnt every trick under the sun

> since time immemorial, how to perpetuate itself,

 

Since time immemorial? And how is this known? :-). Unless some hear-

say is believed about " innumerable lifetimes. " And how many of these

are remembered <laugh>.

 

> how to protect itself. To be quite honest,

> the " I " has no intention of splitting the scene.

 

Which " I " might that be, 'you' speak as if it were something real.

Bring an " I " here in a jar or a cup, show it here ;-).

 

> Really do you want to be a nobody ?

 

Even wanting to be a nobody is wanting to be 'something'. The desire

to be is clearly the 'root of duality'. For this reason,

Nisargadatta recommends 'remain with the beingness.' Perhaps the

desire to be will drop.

 

> Just look around at the many deluded, pathological

> seekers and gurus in the market place, each one believing

> like the usual lunatics, that he is a Jesus, a Buddha,

> an enlightened being. The real sages throughout

> history can be checked on the fingers. The rest

> are merely technocrats, second-hand repeaters,

> whispers from the true sages.

 

There seems a subtle egotism in making a judgment such as the one

above :-). And " how would you know " for sure? What is the

definition of a " sage? "

 

'Realization' doesn't happen to a body-mind -- and not all " apparent

realizers " (these words just for the sake of conversation) will go on

to teach or " become sages " or attract even a single " student. " :-)

 

Namaste,

 

Tim

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