Guest guest Posted May 27, 2001 Report Share Posted May 27, 2001 In TheWayStation, " Omkara " wrote: snip- > I say get let's rid of the word " nonduality " and replace it > with " singularity " -- it may be " less accurate " (sort of) but also > easier to understand :-). > > Cheers, > > Tim I agree, duality and non-duality, have no meaning except to weigh one thing against another. Conceptually, the idea of non-duality versus duality is so reminiscent of the " good vs evil " concept - us and them - you know, judgemental opinionated thinking. ;-) How about process? The movement of energy appearing as infinite forms in the formless void - you know - life and stuff! :-) When in relationship what do we do? Do we see the 'what is' or do we see what we believe we see? :-) Ah, and have we any choice in the matter - of what we believe to be the 'real deal'? Do we have any choice at all? There are some belief systems that say we choose to be born into a certain life to learn certain lessons. So what? Even if it is true, the fundamental question doesn't get answered. You know - where did all this stuff come from anyway? Now, that is a doozy of a question! A real humdinger of a poser! A confounding conundrum... On the one hand there is absolutely no reason for anything to exist and on the other hand there is absolutely no reason for anything not to exist. We might say that existance came into existance just because it could. Hmmm...silly gibberish - isn't it? :-) Ever stay up all night and watched the sunrise? Spectacular isn't it? What does religion or politics or social norms have to do with that beauty? Not a darn thing! The universe is unfolded beauty for the sake of beauty. Suns, star systems, galaxies are all being created and destroyed on a scale that we can only pretend to imagine. Species and civilizations beyond comprehending come into life and fade away - all the time, everywhere. So why are you and I and every other beautiful human being here? Do we have a purpose? And if we do, is it to murder, enslave and control one another? Or, were we created just because we could be created? You know - for the fun of it? Just to see how many, if any of us, will rise above the biological imperatives of physical existance, develop and discard beliefs, delve into the mysteries of life, try and fail to figure it all out - to finally realize that it is more than good to be, just be. We are not only looking at the stars, the stars are looking at us! Hey! So life is shitty sometimes and just when you are feeling fat, dumb, happy, and right with the world things go ka-blooie! Ot just when things are at thier lowest and it seems like there aint no way you're gonna make it no how - some incredible stoke of luck or kindness comes your way and phew! what a relief! Hahaha - then somebody tells you that it is all an illusion, all in your mind - that you do not exist, nothing does. Or, better yet it is all GOD's will and you better get right with the Lord cause if you don't boys and girls, there's gonna be hell to pay! ;-) And you still don't remember choosing to be here - on this particular planet - for any particular reason - and the universe in all of its splendor has created untold billions just like you! All unique and yet all the same.... And when your butt itches real bad, I mean real bad, who gives a damn what the meaning of life is! HAHAHAHA! Isn't it better to learn how to wipe one's ass so as to prevent unwonted itching than to become enlightened?! Loveya - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2001 Report Share Posted May 27, 2001 Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote: > TheWayStation, " Michael Read " <maread@i...> wrote: > > > And when your butt itches real bad, I mean real bad, who gives a > > damn what the meaning of life is! HAHAHAHA! > > Who gives a damn what the meaning of life is anyway -- butt or no > butt? ;-). " Real nonduality " (arrgh, for want of a better term) > isn't about the meaning of life, it's about the end of questions, > answers, seeking, striving, searching, wanting, longing, desiring, > hoping, future-tripping, past-tripping, present-tripping... you > know, all that stuff that causes so much suffering :-). Ah yes! What a long strange trip it's been. - Jerry Garcia > > > Isn't it better to learn how to > > wipe one's ass so as to prevent unwonted itching than to become > > enlightened?! > > Since it isn't *possible* to 'become enlightened' (who gets > enlightened?), the answer is 'yes' of course :-). Then again, most > seem to learn to wipe their ass in early childhood, so it isn't much > of an issue :-). > > That is, unless the TP runs out 'unexpectedly'. Then the question > becomes valid again <loud laugh>. > > Love, > > Tim And in while India (and many other places) one learns that TP is not available...;-) Been there, done that.... Some advice - travel with handi-wipes! ;-) Enlightenment is like constipation. At first there is a vague uncomfortable feeling that something is out of place. Then there is a feeling of being blocked, packed up, and backed up. After that comes the idea that something MUST BE DONE ABOUT THIS! And one sits down to focus on the problem. This focus becomes paramount. The desire to get through (or get this thing over and done with) this overwhelming discomfort supercedes all other desire. Then, after much straining and moaning and groaning, after all ideas and beliefs and trips, after all the trying and crying and pain, after all the praying and beseeching and meditating, the process takes on a life of its own. The end is near and relief happens! Ah! Feels good! Phew! Surprise surprise - {you} didn't do it - it did {you}. :-) HAHAHAHA and HOHOHO! Peace = Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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