Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 TheWayStation, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote: The below sounds like a serious overcomplication of the fact that " personality " or " self image " is discontinuous, based on memory and is in fact an illusion, just conditioning responding to 'situations' as required. But it could be a good way to explore the fact and eventually realize the truth of it, if some attention was actually given to it. The whole " buffers " thing sounds ridiculous though, because it assumes the existence of time, and also of a possible " third person perspective " to observe the " various I's " which in fact are *never* the same -- there is no " fixed set of I's, " each one is produced by memory in response to situations. Since each time the situation is very different, each assumed " I " is also very different, coming also with its own set of " buttons " that can be pushed. Realizing this clearly is not only the end of continuity, but the end of the " buttons " too. Namaste, Tim --------------------- Kathleen Riordan Speeth, author of " The Gurdjieff Work " writes, " .....each person who says " I " assumes that he or she speaks as an entity that persists hour after hour, day after day. That is how we represent ourselves to others and what we generally accept as self-evident truth.... It may be, however, that human psychological structure function are better explained by looking at behavior in terms of many " I's " , rather than one, a concept of self more akin to the Buddhist view than to Western psycho- logical thought.......According to Gurdjieff each adult has many selves, each of which uses the word " I " to describe itself. At one moment one " I " is present and at another there is a different " I " who may or may not be in sympathy with the previous " I " . This " I " may or may not even know the other " I " exists - for inbetween " I's " there are often relatively impenetrable defenses called 'buffers'. " What Speeth (on behalf of G) describes above is very much in line with my own observations of multiplicity. Just the other day, while attending a banquet, I observed the 'shifting' of " I's " in a very discernable way. The " I " that expressed itself was very shy and uncomfortable around people she knew quite well, and had joked with only weeks earlier. While observing this 'energetic' I also noted the difference in posture and body movement. I was also aware that I could 'put on' another 'face', one more comfortable in social settings. But I simply allowed the expression that arose naturally, and appreciated very much the opportunity to not only observe 'her', but observe people's responses to 'her'. It was quite an eye opener. :-) All this, I'm aware, sounds rather Sybil-ese, but it has been my observation that we are all 'multiple-personality'. It only becomes a disorder when there are so many buffers between aspects as to disallow that sense of 'continuity' that Speeth wrote about above - that leads Westerners to the mistaken sense of a singular, continuous 'self'. It would seem, from here, that the concept of multiplicity 'creates the space' for people to easily see that they are not their 'selves', that there is the possibility of being Witness to each and every one of their expressions. Melody --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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