Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Hi Jeremy, > Does anyone know of any advaita teachers in the New England > MA,NY,CT,RI,NH) area? To my knowledge there are no active New England resident advaita teachers. I run an email list for satsang announcements in the New England area: Satsangs > Is having a teacher along the path of advaita necessary? Can there be a teaching or a path without a teacher? Or do you mean if one needs to surrender to a living guru in order to be enlightened? The short answer is " yes, it would be nice. " Here is the long answer: Is falling in love necessary for Self-realization? I'd never fallen in love nor expected to fall in love with a teacher but as soon as I read excerpts from " I am That, " to my surprise, a love was born, a type of love that I'd never experienced before. Of course I loved and respected many teachers before Maharaj but this was something different. Although having a guru helps, for Self-realization one does not need to experience the guru love. > I am somewhat > frustrated as the only teachers I have come into contact with are either > unknowledgeable or seem to be (either wittingly or unwittingly) a > personality cult of sorts. Does anyone share in my feelings or experiences > or am I an isolated case? I've had similar experiences. Even the teachers who claim there is no guru, after a while, if you're not a devotee, i.e., if the love has not happened yet, then one is made to feel as if one is not welcome there anymore. When the dating is over, then it's time to seek a new potential It may sound paradoxical that dualistic love is required for a non-dual teacher but it is true. > I am extremely hesitant to join many groups as > many I have come across appear to be manifestations of the guru complex. Not > that it is bad to have and respect one's teacher but...complete self > surrender to another human being at the expense of one's own judgement can > be a very dangerous thing. Who really decides to surrender? Once the love happens, then surrender is the natural result. I believe because of the issues of " guru " and " enlightenment " Advaita has not become popular in the US. Just think about it. In a group of friends one of them will one day claim that s/he is enlightened and maybe endorsed/favored/certified by another teacher s/he will start giving satsangs. No matter how knowledgable s/he is, if the new guru is not particularly charismatic, there will always be questions of whether s/he's enlightened or not. " Is s/he really enlightened? Is s/he enlightened as my guru?? " The skepticism will be intense. As a natural reaction, the defenders of the new guru may create a " club members only " environment where the new guru can feel secure. In other words, it's very difficult to be a guru especially in the US where there is no guru tradition. I believe that in order for Advaita to become more popular, the new tradition in the West has to solve the " enlightenment " issue. Maybe we should just delete it from our vocabulary. Where there is no enlightenment then there is no enlightened guru or a person. The only danger with that approach is that the new tradition can be become scripture drive. Although it may sound more democratic at first, scripture based teaching can lead to a fundamentalistic version of advaita. Perhaps there is no solution for this dilemma and maybe for that reason the mystics have always wandered searching for the city of the heart. Hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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