John/Teachers of the Path of Non Duality

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Dear John,

 

Thanks for stating it so beautifully.

 

I found finally that the real teacher is 'consciousness' itself...

the sense of life-energy or 'beingness'. But it has to be 'listened

to'... in other words, 'worshipped' -- to remain with it without

attention wandering everywhere, outwardly.

 

The " Sadguru " requires trust and obedience... and the 'ability' to

trust and obey 'life' itself as it guides... absolute surrender to

nothing in particular.

 

This was 'suited' to 'my temperament' being a 'loner' most of life...

for many it will not be suited. Either way is fine, there's

nothing 'better' or 'worse' about 'inner Guru' or 'outer Guru'.

 

Ultimately the outer Guru either symbolizes, or leads directly

to 'inner Guru'. All paths " end " at the same place (where they

began.. heeheheheheeheeheeheeeHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!)

 

Joy & Fulfillment,

 

Tim

 

Nisargadatta, " John Logan " <johnrloganis> wrote:

> Hi,

> I am a newcomer to the list but have been " lurking " for a while.

> I just had to jump on this one:

>

> Omkara/Tim wrote

>

> " Ultimately you can trust only yourself in spiritual matters, but a

> teacher or Guru may get you started. But if a teacher encourages

> *dependence* -- in other words, if he does not 'give you to

yourself'

> or help you find the " inner " Guru but instead encourages dependence

> and servitude, turn tail and RUN. "

>

> Absolutely, yes, yes, and yes!

>

> Also I have had the experience that when I needed a teacher, the

> teacher appeared. Every teacher of significance in my life found

me!

> When I went looking for the teacher it was if there weren't any in

> the world!

>

> Where one is, is where the teacher and the teaching is.

>

> When it is time to move on, it will happen naturally. I spent a

lot

> of time struggling and fretting over this very topic -- and it

didn't

> do a bit of good. When I gave up the search that is when it

happened.

>

> The first teachers were pretty basic; that is what I needed. As I

> matured, the teachers became more challenging. At the peak, I

> discovered that the " teacher " didn't want me to move on, wanted me

to

> be dependent on the " teacher " . That was the teacher's problem, and

it

> was my lesson, that it was time to move on. Very hard, lots of

guilt

> trips. " I was betraying a sacred trust, etc. "

>

> Garbage!

>

> The point is

>

>

> Where one is, is where the teacher and the teaching is.

> And if a teacher is needed, one will appear.

> In the meantime work with what you are led to work with.

>

> John L.