Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Dear List, ANetofJewels, " Manuel V. Hernandez " <manuel1498> wrote: >Other than the primal Absolute subjectivity in which all exists, > nothing in fact does exist! >Can anyone explain why in the first part of the sentence above, >Ramesh (in referring to phenomena) states " in which *all exists*, " >and in the second part of the sentence states " nothing (in fact) >does exist? " When you see yourself as nothing, then everything that you read, or listening to, is very obviously clear. But with the individual mind, that is trying to compare, segregation, understand the words, definition, description and meaning...., that creates confusion and problems. Only the individual mind sees differences. Consciousness in movement,is manifestation (phenomena) Consciousness at rest, the Absolute. When I see I am everything, I am Love. When I see I am nothing, that is Wisdom, between this two, my lives move. All IS, because I AM. All there IS, Is Consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 - " John Logan " <johnrloganis <Nisargadatta > Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:57 AM Question to List-Re: A Net of Jewels June 21 > Consciousness Only. All that appears is thought. > Thought has no material basis. > Therefore, > there is nothing material that exists. > > Another way to look at it is that it is the familiar " shifting the > ground of discussion from one state to another " and the responder is > supposed to follow the shift. Krishnamurti does this kind of thing > all through his teaching and if one misses the shift in " ground " then > one gets quite confused. Hi John! Excellent stuff. Also Nagarjuna of the Madhayamika school was a master of this dialectical craft, though apparently causing much confusion among many scholars and lay-readers. But as you beautifully put it, for the skillful player this manner of expression is closer to the reality of how things *are*, as evidenced by recent developments in quantum mechanics. So keep on playing. Best ~dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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