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Not that anything needs to be added, but I strongly agree with with

Tim re: panic, symptoms, and SSRI's.

 

Do these " thoughts and feelings " ever have audible voices?

 

-mort

 

 

 

Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote:

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> Nisargadatta, Michael <michael@p...> wrote:

> > Psychic attacks are thoughts and feelings telling

> > me that I am a worthless piece of crap. They give

> > me a tight chest, a churning stomach, and sore muscles

> > all over my body. They wake me up at 3:00 in the morning

> > and I have to get up and do something to stop the suffering

> > they rain down on me. They are strong. They are relentless.

> > Just when I think that I have overcome them, they sneak in

> > and take over my life. I make a conscious decision to do

> > this or that and the very next moment they are telling me

> > what a fool I am.

>

> i remember you mentioning this when we first 'met' online.

>

> It sounds like panic disorder to me, or a variation on it... the

> thing that cues me off to it is that they wake you up in the middle

> of the night (which seems to indicate a brain chemistry imbalance

> thing).

>

> There's a real chance that a mild dosage of something like Prozac

or

> another one of the SSRI antidepressants (Zoloft, Paxil, etc) might

> help. Have you ever considered it? Even 6 months on a relatively

> low dose can " work miracles " -- it did for me back in 1988 when i

had

> something similar going on. It's purely up to you of course...

>

> > Thanks Tim...you have been much help to me the last few years.

> > I appreciate your friendship.

>

> Always a pleasure :-).

>

> Namaste,

>

> Tim

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Hi Mort:

 

Yes they have audible voices and they can also

appear as " real " people, places and things.

 

They disguise themselves as reality but seen

in retrospect they are merely fabrications of my mind.

 

Yesterday I was doing some work on my computer,

cutting and pasting. I noticed my mind repeating

control c, control v, etc. , immediately following

were thoughts about how stupid it was to do this

and that I should know better, these thoughts started

snowballing until I had to get up from the computer

and go outside and breathe because of the anxiety they

were producing.

 

It may be some compulsive obsessive disorder as I have

read about the way this disorder creates a constant checking,

such as washing the hands until they are raw, coming back home

to be sure you didn't leave the stove on, etc.

 

My hope here is that by giving these voices a name as I am

doing on this list that I will no longer fear them because

I have learned that resisting them only makes them stronger

and nastier.

 

I know it's hard for someone who has not gone through this

to understand or empathise. Yet, I sense some very caring

individuals on this list and that helps me to loosen my fear

of disclosure.

 

Michael

 

mortivan wrote:

>

> Not that anything needs to be added, but I strongly agree with with

> Tim re: panic, symptoms, and SSRI's.

>

> Do these " thoughts and feelings " ever have audible voices?

>

> -mort

>

> Nisargadatta, " Omkara " <coresite@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Michael,

> >

> > Nisargadatta, Michael <michael@p...> wrote:

> > > Psychic attacks are thoughts and feelings telling

> > > me that I am a worthless piece of crap. They give

> > > me a tight chest, a churning stomach, and sore muscles

> > > all over my body. They wake me up at 3:00 in the morning

> > > and I have to get up and do something to stop the suffering

> > > they rain down on me. They are strong. They are relentless.

> > > Just when I think that I have overcome them, they sneak in

> > > and take over my life. I make a conscious decision to do

> > > this or that and the very next moment they are telling me

> > > what a fool I am.

> >

> > i remember you mentioning this when we first 'met' online.

> >

> > It sounds like panic disorder to me, or a variation on it... the

> > thing that cues me off to it is that they wake you up in the middle

> > of the night (which seems to indicate a brain chemistry imbalance

> > thing).

> >

> > There's a real chance that a mild dosage of something like Prozac

> or

> > another one of the SSRI antidepressants (Zoloft, Paxil, etc) might

> > help. Have you ever considered it? Even 6 months on a relatively

> > low dose can " work miracles " -- it did for me back in 1988 when i

> had

> > something similar going on. It's purely up to you of course...

> >

> > > Thanks Tim...you have been much help to me the last few years.

> > > I appreciate your friendship.

> >

> > Always a pleasure :-).

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Tim

>

>

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