Dave-There is nothing to purify

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> Hi Paul,

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> > how do you know this?

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> 'You' cannot know this.

> There is no 'you' to know this,

> when surrender is.

 

 

so do you sort of disappear and lose consciousness?

 

 

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> > What about surrendering to the sense me?

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> I'm not with you here, could you come again ?

 

in your heart, there is a sense of " I AM " or " Me " ... surrender your

will to that... obey that... consider that Krishna, Jesus, Allah or

Shiva whatever... surrender to yourself..

 

the place the laughter comes from......

 

 

here is an example from the Bhagavad Gita:

 

Give me thy mind and give me thy heart, give me thy offerings and thy

adoration: and thus with thy soul in harmony, and making me thy goal

supreme, thou shalt in truth come to me. Bhagavad Gita

 

and here is an example from the Bible:

 

John 5:39 " You search the Scriptures for in them you think you have

eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

John 5:40 " but you are not willing to come to Me that you may have

life.

 

 

Paul

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" Paul Cote " <pjcote

<Nisargadatta >

Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:20 PM

Dave-Re: There is nothing to purify

 

 

> so do you sort of disappear and lose consciousness?

 

It depends on what you mean by consciousness.

What is usually called consciousness arises from

a (mis)perception, imposed on our natural state

of 'unknowing'. Unconsciousness is not the correct

word for that state.

 

> in your heart, there is a sense of " I AM " or " Me " ... surrender your

> will to that... obey that... consider that Krishna, Jesus, Allah or

> Shiva whatever... surrender to yourself..

 

You're probably talking about

what is generally termed your 'conscience'.

That 'subtle voice' or 'intrinsic feeling'

probably originated from external cultural and

social influences. It obstructs your natural intelligence

from unfolding.

 

~dave