Dan-Tim / clarity about the me

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Hi Dan,

 

Thanks for the kind reply... just a few quick comments and i'm " outta

here " :-)...

 

Nisargadatta, Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

 

> The activity/belief/perception that there is someone who is

> sentient, who has that as a quality (and who thus can be a knower

> and doer), can't be fully explained as the tendency formulated

> as " the past " -- for " the past " is only known as an individual " me "

> when this action is occurring presently.

>

> The claim of sentience therefore must be arising presently, and then

> basing the claim by interpreting memory a certain way (around

> a " me " ).

 

i sometimes describe this as " thought 'bracketed' by the ideas of

past and future. " This is also how i would define " mind. " Somehow

both the " me " and the " mind " (same thing, apparently) arise " Now, "

yet the misinterpretation takes place when time mistakenly comes into

the picture.

 

From some arbitrary point " in the past " ('my personal history'), and

some arbitrary point " in the future " ('my destiny' and/or 'my

plans/goals'), thought is " enclosed " in/as the idea of time and thus

arises a seeming " center " -- entirely dependent on time, just as the

body is dependent on the notion of space.

 

There may in fact be some crossover in the time/space thing, since

often the body is part of what makes up the notion of " me " (or all of

it, if some of the Hindu sages are to be believed ;-). Then again,

time and space are really not-two, both being conceptual in nature.

 

Thanks again for the response, it's always appreciated.

 

Love,

 

Tim

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" Omkara " <coresite

<Nisargadatta >

Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:40 PM

Dan-Re: Tim / clarity about the " me "

 

 

>

> Hi Dan,

>

> Thanks for the kind reply... just a few quick comments and i'm " outta

> here " :-)...

<snip>

> Love,

> Tim

 

Hi Tim,

 

May I ask why the sudden urgency to be " outta here " ?

What's cooking ?

Come on don't be a spoil, give us some more..

U know the saying - give the people what they want;

either you pay your dues now or you pay later -.

Which " which " shall it be ?

 

:-)

~dave