Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 Here is Nisargadatta again. What awesome philosophical insights. You know only what is in your consciousness. What you claim exists outside conscious experience is inferred. (449) Is there a world outside your knowledge? Can you go beyond what you know? You may postulate a world beyond the mind, but it will remain a concept, unproved and unprovable. Your experience is your proof, and it is valid for you only. Who else can have your experience, when the other person is only as real as he appears in your experience? (533) Whatever happens, happens to you, by you, through you; you are the creator, enjoyer and destroyer of all you perceive. (468) You are the maker of the world in which you live, you alone can change it, or unmake it. (380) The world appears to you so overwhelmingly real because you think of it all the time; cease thinking of it and it will dissolve into thin mist. (505) All perceivables are stains. The entire universe is a stain. (126) That you hear is a fact. What you hear is not. The fact can be experienced, and in that sense the sound of the word and the mental ripples it causes are experienced. There is no other reality behind it. (450) All happens in consciousness. The world is but a succession of experiences. (404) Your conviction that you are conscious of a world is the world. The world you perceive is made of consciousness; what you call matter is consciousness itself. (286) The idea of responsibility is in your mind. You think there must be something or somebody solely responsible for all that happens. There is a contradiction between a multiple universe and a single cause. Either one or the other must be false. Or both. As I see it, it is all day-dreaming. There is no reality in ideas. The fact is that without you, neither the universe nor its cause could have come into being. (502) Your own little body too is full of mysteries and dangers, yet you are not afraid of it, for you take it as your own. What you do not know is that the entire universe is your body, and you need not be afraid of it. You may say you have two bodies: the personal and the universal. The personal comes and goes, the universal is always with you. The entire creation is your universal body. You are so blinded by what is personal, that you do not see the universal. This blindness will not end by itself - it must be undone skillfully and deliberately. When all illusions are understood and abandoned, you reach the error-free and perfect state in which all distinctions between the personal and the universal are no more. (308) ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 Jan Sultan wrote: > > Here is Nisargadatta again. What awesome philosophical insights. > Is there a world outside your knowledge? Can you go beyond what you > know? .... > Whatever happens, happens to you, by you, through you; you are the > creator, > enjoyer and destroyer of all you perceive. (468) > > You are the maker of the world in which you live, you alone can change > it, > or unmake it. (380) Hi Jan, what I don't understand is this: if you REALLY belieave theses sentences to be THE TRUTH --- why are you investing time, writing all these emails????? Wishing love and happiness, Werner -- **************************************** Himmel, Erde und alles, was du siehst trägst du in deiner eigenen Brust. Es scheint außer dir, doch es ist in dir, in deiner Phantasie - von der diese sterbliche Welt nur ein Schatten ist William Blake ************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 If culturally conditioned -mind- 'believes' something to be true, you can be sure it is not true. If the culturally conditioned -mind- " doesn't believe " something to be true, you can be sure that is not true either. Thus Maharaj says, meditate (on what I have said), is what I have said, true or not true. Then you will know that too is to be discarded. ------------------------------ > Hi Jan, > > what I don't understand is this: > if you REALLY belieave theses sentences > to be THE TRUTH --- > > why are you investing time, > writing all these emails????? > > Wishing love and happiness, > Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Hi Elizabeth, thats a really helpful quote to me! Yet my question: why are YOU writing emails on the teaching of sri Nisargadatta? Love, Werner elizabeth_wells2001 wrote: > > If culturally conditioned -mind- 'believes' something > to be true, you can be sure it is not true. > > If the culturally conditioned -mind- " doesn't believe " > something to be true, you can be sure that is not > true either. > > Thus Maharaj says, meditate (on what I have said), > is what I have said, true or not true. > > Then you will know that too is to be discarded. > > ------------------------------ > > > Hi Jan, > > > > what I don't understand is this: > > if you REALLY belieave theses sentences > > to be THE TRUTH --- > > > > why are you investing time, > > writing all these emails????? > > > > Wishing love and happiness, > > > Werner > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Nisargadatta, yes8@f... wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > thats a really helpful quote to me! > > Yet my question: > > why are YOU writing emails on the teaching of sri Nisargadatta? > > Love, > > Werner ---------------------- Hi: Why? I don't know. Why not? Why do you want to know? If it comes natural, let it rip! El .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Yes Werner, What is the point of your question? Maybe the posting is just happenning as a part of the total functioning of manifestation. Maybe it's happenning just for the enjoyment/education of the body- mind known as John Jablonski. WHO cares? -- John Nisargadatta, elizabeth_wells2001 wrote: > Nisargadatta, yes8@f... wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, > > thats a really helpful quote to me! > > > > Yet my question: > > > > why are YOU writing emails on the teaching of sri > Nisargadatta? > > > > Love, > > > > Werner > ---------------------- > > Hi: > > Why? > > I don't know. > > Why not? > > Why do you want to know? > > If it comes natural, let it rip! > > > El > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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