Question: no self?

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta :

 

The self you want to know, is it some second self? Are you made of several

selves? Surely, there is only one self and you are that self. The self you

are is the only self there is. Remove and abandon your wrong ideas about

yourself and there it is, in all its glory. (516-7)

 

There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the highest self,

only give up the false ideas you have about your self. (517)

 

My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is all the

difference - and it cannot last. (88)

 

There is no " my self " and " his self " . There is the Self, the only Self of

all. Misled by the diversity of names and shapes, minds and bodies, you

imagine multiple selves. We both are the self. (137)

 

Outside the Self there is nothing. (68)

[Guest guest]

" > Outside the Self there is nothing. (68) "

 

Not even the idea of nothing.

 

My True Nature.

 

El

 

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Nisargadatta, " Miguel Angel Carrasco " <macf12@w...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta :

>

> The self you want to know, is it some second self? Are you

made of several

> selves? Surely, there is only one self and you are that self. The

self you

> are is the only self there is. Remove and abandon your wrong

ideas about

> yourself and there it is, in all its glory. (516-7)

>

> There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the

highest self,

> only give up the false ideas you have about your self. (517)

>

> My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is all

the

> difference - and it cannot last. (88)

>

> There is no " my self " and " his self " . There is the Self, the only

Self of

> all. Misled by the diversity of names and shapes, minds and

bodies, you

> imagine multiple selves. We both are the self. (137)

>

> Outside the Self there is nothing. (68)

[Guest guest]

Paul & Friends,

 

Paul says: Now this Self is his own Consciousness... seeing,

hearing, feeling, touching... and all makes a little play on the

stage within. The senses are not connected to external reality

really. I see everything within my own awareness (consciousness).

The individual (Paul) and all the " other people " (My Wife, Boss etc.)

within the play are all wrapped around with only MY consciousness on

the stage of My inner self. So, I am God of my own World. I create

it and live within it.

>

> The Self is Consciousness.

> The Self is the stage.

> The Self is an actor.

> The Self is Shiva

> Nothing exists that is not Shiva.

>

> Don't know if this is the way others see things or not....

>

> any comments?

>

> Selfishly,

>

> Paul

>

eric again: Sure, Imagine that that self (Siva) is completely devoid

of any substance or limitation whatsoever, and that condition (rather

than it's name: Siva, Buddhamind, Buddhanature, Purna, etc.)is

effectively and actually empty. Then one can say:

 

And my self is emptiness.

 

Now you are in complete accord with the Buddhists both about the

nature of the " Self " as well as the ultimate nature of " God " .

 

And you can be sure that " Siva " would approve.

 

yours in the bonds,

eric