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--- Daniel Berkow <berkowd wrote:

 

> Dan:

> If there is one seeing something, even if it be oneself

> sleeping, is that not conceptuality?

> In other words, whenever there is the sense that someone

> is there observing something that happens, is not

> that " someone " a conceptualization, an inference,

> a supposition?

 

Dan, I do not know. I thought that the position of a

" witness " was the " right one " .

Ultimatelly no one can say anything about

nothing/something....the mind is not useful then...I

guess.. and being be goes on......in silence.

I wouldn't say I am there myself.

 

> If no such conceptualization occurs, where is the

>someone to observe oneself sleeping or waking?

> And where is the someone who is to be observed, >who is

supposed to be waking up or going to sleep?

 

Right, I'm puzzled. I get no where, no where to get...easy

to say and then what... I feel like I'm chasing my own

tail. What would be the difference from what already is?

 

greetings

caiti

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta, Caiti <caitionline> wrote:

> --- Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

>

> > Dan:

> > If there is one seeing something, even if it be oneself

> > sleeping, is that not conceptuality?

> > In other words, whenever there is the sense that someone

> > is there observing something that happens, is not

> > that " someone " a conceptualization, an inference,

> > a supposition?

>

> Dan, I do not know. I thought that the position of a

> " witness " was the " right one " .

> Ultimatelly no one can say anything about

> nothing/something....the mind is not useful then...I

> guess.. and being be goes on......in silence.

> I wouldn't say I am there myself.

>

> > If no such conceptualization occurs, where is the

> >someone to observe oneself sleeping or waking?

> > And where is the someone who is to be observed, >who is

> supposed to be waking up or going to sleep?

>

> Right, I'm puzzled. I get no where, no where to get...easy

> to say and then what... I feel like I'm chasing my own

> tail. What would be the difference from what already is?

>

> greetings

> caiti

 

Caitlin a chara,

 

It never happened at all, there was never anything else but Turiya. If

there was then it would exist in Turiya, which means Nirguna

Brahman....Tony.

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