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Nisargadatta, " e-agora... " <e-agora...@u...> wrote:

> By that definition nothing is real, since every *thing* changes.

>

> Apparently there area at least " two " uni-verses touching themselves

here:

>

> " That " one that NEVER changes, " That " " YOU " , the " Observer " , " It "

> and the " things " uni-verse....

>

> " I " agree that " It " is not a " thing "

> But " It " is also so un-describle as any other " thing " .

>

> Words, any word, are only " traffic signs " that point to our focus

> but not " define " what we are " talking " about.

>

> like pointing to the moon......

>

> anyway.... without this other thing called " memory " how could we

know that

> anything could ever change or not change????

>

> " I " " am " not sure but " I " think " I " " remember " have read somewhere

that Shankara once said " The Real is the relative and the relative is

the Real... so let's move on " .....

 

Ok...

 

What is it that neither changes nor stays the same?

 

Cheers,

 

Tim

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