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'Have you seen God?' I asked. 'And if you have, can you enable me to

see him? I am willing to pay any price, even my life, but your part

of the bargain is that you must show me God.'

 

'No,' he (Ramana Maharshi) answered. 'I cannot show you God or enable

you to see God because God is not an object that can be seen. God is

the subject. He is the seer. Don't concern yourself with objects that

can be seen. Find out who the seer is.' He also added, 'You alone are

God,' as if to rebuke me for looking for a God who was outside and

apart from me.

 

**

 

When I appeared before him (again), the Maharshi asked, 'Where have

you been? Where are you living?'

 

'On the other side of the mountain,' I replied.

 

'And what were you doing there?' he enquired.

 

He had given me my cue.

 

'I was playing with my Krishna,' I said, in a very smug tone of voice.

 

I was very proud of my achievement and felt superior to the Maharshi

because I was absolutely convinced that Krishna had not appeared to

him during that period.

 

'Oh, is that so?' he commented, looking surprised and

interested. 'Very good, very nice. Do you see Him now?'

 

'No, sir, I do not,' I replied. 'I only see Him when I have visions.'

 

I was still feeling very pleased with myself, feeling that I had been

granted these visions, whereas the Maharshi had not.

 

'So Krishna comes and plays with you and then He disappears,' said

the Maharshi. 'What is the use of a God who appears and disappears?

If He is a real God, He must be with you all the time.'

 

The Maharshi's lack of interest in my visionary experiences deflated

me a little, but not to the extent that I was willing to listen to

his advice. He was telling me to give up my search for an external

God and instead find the origin and identity of the one who wanted to

see Him. This was too much for me to swallow. A lifetime of devotion

to Krishna had left me incapable of conceiving the spiritual quest in

any other terms than that of a quest for a personal God

 

- Papaji

 

From the biography of H.W.L. Poonja aka Papaji

" Nothing Ever Happened "

by David Godman

 

Reposted from:

 

http://www.realization.org/page/doc0/doc0096a.htm

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hurg,

thank you for that quote...I very much appreciated it.

 

also

Judi,

thanks for sharing more about yourself through the URLs

that you provided...I do hope your son will be

fine...continuing to grow into a conscious and fulfiled

man...

 

I enjoyed reading your article...particulary helpful for me

was the mention of the fact that understanding is not about

a gain...making something to work out...it is already

working out, isn't it...?

 

I wish you nice holiday with your family and I wish peace

to everybody on this list and all off this list.

 

B -U -merry

caiti

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta, Caiti <caitionline> wrote:

 

>

> I enjoyed reading your article...particulary helpful for me

> was the mention of the fact that understanding is not about

> a gain...making something to work out...it is already

> working out, isn't it...?

 

***** Like I said, don't look at me, that's all your " business " .

It's nothing but suffering *if* you would but see it.

 

Like an old teacher of mine said, " I can throw you down a rope, but

what you queers do among yourselves is your business. "

 

:-)

 

Judi

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