Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 The Nectar of Immortality: Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's Discourses on the Eternal Edited by Robert Powell Reposted from http://realization.org/page/doc1/doc104a.htm Shortly before he died, the famous Advaitan guru talked with a visitor about meditation. By SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ Visitor: I have read I Am That and came here on my own. Maharaj: Have you read the whole book? V: I have read the first part fully and the second partially. M: Having read the book, did you come to your self at the witnessing state? V: Yes, I understood but I do not feel it. I have no peace of mind. M: Do you get an inkling as to how you are connected with your self? V: A little bit. M: Would you like to ask any questions? V: Not many, but I shall be grateful if I am told how to bring peace to my mind. M: Because of the self, the atman, you are connected to the world through the body. The self is nothing else but the knowledge that " you are. " Meditate on that principle by which you know " you are " and on account of which you experience the world. Meditate on this knowledge " you are, " which is the consciousness, and abide therein. V: But the concentration is just not there. M: Ignore the mind the way you disregard the crowd you encounter on the streets. V: I shall try. M: As a matter of fact, mind is a universal dynamic principle, but we restrict it to the limits of the body and then depend on it — hence all the trouble. Consider the water in Lake Tansa. That water belongs to the whole of Bombay. Out of that water, can we claim some as yours or mine? In a similar vein, understand that the self is universal. But you have conditioned it by confining it to the body; therefore, you face problems. This self is also termed Ishwara — God — the Universal Principle. If you hold on to that, profound knowledge will descend upon you and you will have peace. V: I try to meditate on that, but the mind wanders here and there. If I try to remain indifferent to mind, it will be a long-drawn-out process. M: But are you not the root of any process? V: The root of everything is life. M: Yes, but the life force is universal and not personalized. Once you realize this, you have no more troubles. The Nectar of Immortality: Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's Discourses on the Eternal Edited by Robert Powell Published by Blue Dove Press, 1987 for more pages: http://realization.org/page/doc1/doc104a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 great quote Nisargadatta, " hurg " <hurg> wrote: > The Nectar of Immortality: > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's Discourses on the Eternal > Edited by Robert Powell > > Reposted from http://realization.org/page/doc1/doc104a.htm > > Shortly before he died, the famous Advaitan guru talked with a > visitor about meditation. > > By SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ > > Visitor: I have read I Am That and came here on my own. > > > Maharaj: Have you read the whole book? > > V: I have read the first part fully and the second partially. > > M: Having read the book, did you come to your self at the witnessing > state? > > V: Yes, I understood but I do not feel it. I have no peace of mind. > > > M: Do you get an inkling as to how you are connected with your self? > > V: A little bit. > > M: Would you like to ask any questions? > > V: Not many, but I shall be grateful if I am told how to bring peace > to my mind. > > M: Because of the self, the atman, you are connected to the world > through the body. The self is nothing else but the knowledge > that " you are. " Meditate on that principle by which you know " you > are " and on account of which you experience the world. Meditate on > this knowledge " you are, " which is the consciousness, and abide > therein. > > V: But the concentration is just not there. > > M: Ignore the mind the way you disregard the crowd you encounter on > the streets. > > V: I shall try. > > M: As a matter of fact, mind is a universal dynamic principle, but we > restrict it to the limits of the body and then depend on it — hence > all the trouble. Consider the water in Lake Tansa. That water belongs > to the whole of Bombay. Out of that water, can we claim some as yours > or mine? In a similar vein, understand that the self is universal. > But you have conditioned it by confining it to the body; therefore, > you face problems. This self is also termed Ishwara — God — the > Universal Principle. If you hold on to that, profound knowledge will > descend upon you and you will have peace. > > V: I try to meditate on that, but the mind wanders here and there. If > I try to remain indifferent to mind, it will be a long-drawn-out > process. > > M: But are you not the root of any process? > > V: The root of everything is life. > > M: Yes, but the life force is universal and not personalized. Once > you realize this, you have no more troubles. > > The Nectar of Immortality: Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's Discourses on > the Eternal > Edited by Robert Powell > Published by Blue Dove Press, 1987 > > for more pages: > http://realization.org/page/doc1/doc104a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Meditate on that principle by which you know " you are " and on account of which you experience the world. Meditate on this knowledge " you are, " which is the consciousness, and abide therein. The Nectar of Immortality -------------------------- Maharaj is telling this individual to do what he did. What he isn't saying here, but he does in other books, is this is what his guru told him to do. What he isn't saying here, but he does in other books, is his guru died, and he went about his business. And sometime thereafter, this simply started happening, spontaneously, all by itself. He did not try to make it happen. He did not try to go with in. He did not try to abide therein. It happened. All quite naturally. All by itself. El Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 True,,,, of course, there was an encounter with the guru. And... it happened this way to Nisargadatta -- not to Ramana, not to Jesus, not to the Buddha (the latter never meeting an external guru, nor using any of the same words)... Under no conditions is Nisargadatta's experience applicable 'elsewhere'. Not to 'you'... not to 'me'... nowhere. " Truth is a pathless land " -- J. Krishnamurthi Cheers, Tim Nisargadatta, " elizabeth_wells2001 " > Maharaj is telling this individual > to do what he did. > > What he isn't saying here, > but he does in other books, > is this is what his guru told him to do. > > What he isn't saying here, > but he does in other books, > is his guru died, and he went > about his business. > > And sometime thereafter, > this simply started happening, > spontaneously, all by itself. > > He did not try to make it happen. > He did not try to go with in. > He did not try to abide therein. > It happened. > All quite naturally. > All by itself. > > El Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, " fewtch " <coresite@a...> wrote: > > True,,,, of course, there was an encounter with the guru. > > And... it happened this way to Nisargadatta -- not to Ramana, not to > Jesus, not to the Buddha (the latter never meeting an external guru, > nor using any of the same words)... > > Under no conditions is Nisargadatta's experience > applicable 'elsewhere'. > > Not to 'you'... not to 'me'... nowhere. > > " Truth is a pathless land " -- J. Krishnamurthi > > Cheers, > > Tim -------------------------- It is death. It is the unravelling of a life of illusion. The taking of the unreal to be real. It is different for all. And it is the same for all. El Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 why don't you go try to not think about an elephant Nisargadatta, " elizabeth_wells2001 " <elizabeth_wells2001> wrote: > Meditate on that principle by which you know " you > are " and on account of which you experience the world. > > Meditate on > this knowledge " you are, " which is the consciousness, and > abide > therein. > > The Nectar of Immortality > -------------------------- > > Maharaj is telling this individual > to do what he did. > > What he isn't saying here, > but he does in other books, > is this is what his guru told him to do. > > What he isn't saying here, > but he does in other books, > is his guru died, and he went > about his business. > > And sometime thereafter, > this simply started happening, > spontaneously, all by itself. > > He did not try to make it happen. > He did not try to go with in. > He did not try to abide therein. > It happened. > All quite naturally. > All by itself. > > El Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, " bondzai " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > why don't you go try to not think about an elephant Of course, it can't be done. Trying to think about an elephant isn't possible either -- if the thought of an elephant arises, the idea " I'm thinking about it " arises afterwards (or doesn't). Cheers, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 No! Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. --Yoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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