Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying to say here? Jan --------------- Chapter Sixty Six. June Eighteenth, 1981. People have come here, because they feel there is a need to come. The consciousness in your body, feels pleasure in coming here. So long as consciousness feels the need of anything, you will be compelled to do it. When the consciousness leaves, there will be no more bondage. Other than this " sense of " presence " , which we have because of consciousness, what has anybody got? The real happiness, without its counterpart, can only be there when consciousness leaves. So long as consciousness is there, so long is happiness and unhappiness there. Pure happiness can only be there when consciousness is not there. Whatever can be perceived, is totally different from what I am. I have understood my swaroop, and I am that; it has nothing to do with whatever is manifested. You can never isolate yourself from the consciousness, unless the consciousness is pleased with you, and gets rid of you. Consciousness opens the gate, for you to transcend consciousness. There are two aspects. One is conceptual, dynamic consciousness, which is full of concepts. The other is transcendent consciousness. Even the concept " I Am " is not there. Conceptual, qualitative Brahman, the one that is full of concepts and is qualitative, is the outcome of the functioning body. This consciousness is dead to me; it is gone. I have transcended that. So, whatever is, is that other consciousness, that one which is without concepts. The principle that is conceptual and full of qualities, which I transcended, was like a very big ocean. Now it is mostly dried up, just the dregs remain. Only a very little bit is still there, only a few particles. What is pervading and prevailing, is without concept or quality. What remains is talking to you now. Where is the question of birth or death for that remaining principle? You with your wisdom, are stuck here. You are sticking to certain concepts. If you had no concepts, why should you come here? You study only those concepts which arise from within you. Those concepts which you do not like will not occur to you. Suppose you do not like mathematics, that subject will not appeal to you; it is a stranger to your concepts. You will be involved with only those subjects or matters which you like. Analyze your thoughts and see if this is not true. Find out the nature of your thoughts. Are they spiritual? I abide in the state where there is no mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Jan Sultan wrote: > > Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying to say > here? > Jan *** Yes, he's saying shut up and look at yourself! :-) Happy Days, Judi http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm TheEndOfTheRopeRanch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > Jan Sultan wrote: > > > > Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying to say > > here? > > Jan > > *** > Yes, he's saying shut up and look at yourself! > > :-) > > Happy Days, > Judi > Very Funny! Love You Too Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > sworkalpha wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > > > Jan Sultan wrote: > > > > > > > > Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying to say > > > > here? > > > > Jan > > > > > > *** > > > Yes, he's saying shut up and look at yourself! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Happy Days, > > > Judi > > > > > > > Very Funny! > > > ***** You think that's funny do you? > Well be my guest and just keep right on laughing. :-) > > > Judi Oh! Today it's my heart thats laughing. Thanks sweety pie. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 sworkalpha wrote: > > Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > > Jan Sultan wrote: > > > > > > Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying to say > > > here? > > > Jan > > > > *** > > Yes, he's saying shut up and look at yourself! > > > > :-) > > > > Happy Days, > > Judi > > > > Very Funny! > ***** You think that's funny do you? Well be my guest and just keep right on laughing. :-) Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 sworkalpha wrote: > > Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > > sworkalpha wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Judi Rhodes <judirhodes@e...> wrote: > > > > Jan Sultan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Can someone attempt to clarify what Nisargadatta is trying > to say > > > > > here? > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > *** > > > > Yes, he's saying shut up and look at yourself! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > Happy Days, > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > > Very Funny! > > > > > ***** You think that's funny do you? > > Well be my guest and just keep right on laughing. :-) > > > > > > Judi > > Oh! Today it's my heart thats laughing. > Thanks sweety pie. > Jan > > *** Oh shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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