Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 All things arise, Suffer change, And pass away. This is their nature. When you know this, Nothing perturbs you, Nothing hurts you. You become still. It is easy. God made all things. There is only God. When you know this, Desire melts away. Clinging to nothing, You become still. Sooner or later, Fortune or misfortune May befall you. When you know this, You desire nothing, You grieve for nothing. Subduing the senses, You are happy. Whatever you do Brings joy or sorrow, Life or death. When you know this, You may act freely, Without attachment. For what is there to accomplish? All sorrow comes from fear. From nothing else. When you know this, You become free of it, And desire melts away. You become happy And still. " I am not the body, Nor is the body mine. I am awareness itself " When you know this, You have no thought For what you have done Or left undone. You become one, Perfect and indivisible. " I am in all things, From Brahma to a blade of grass. " When you know this, You have no thought For success or failure Or the mind's inconstancy. You are pure. You are still. The world with all its wonders Is nothing. When you know this, Desire melts away. For you are awareness itself. When you know in your heart That there is nothing, You are still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Jan, isn't the ashtavakara gita just rehashed (Hinduized) Buddhism? Nisargadatta, Jan Sultan <swork@m...> wrote: > All things arise, > Suffer change, > And pass away. > > This is their nature. > > When you know this, > Nothing perturbs you, > Nothing hurts you. > > You become still. > > It is easy. > > God made all things. > There is only God. > > When you know this, > Desire melts away. > > Clinging to nothing, > You become still. > > Sooner or later, > Fortune or misfortune > May befall you. > > When you know this, > You desire nothing, > You grieve for nothing. > > Subduing the senses, > You are happy. > > Whatever you do > Brings joy or sorrow, > Life or death. > > When you know this, > You may act freely, > Without attachment. > > For what is there to accomplish? > > All sorrow comes from fear. > From nothing else. > > When you know this, > You become free of it, > And desire melts away. > > You become happy > And still. > > " I am not the body, > Nor is the body mine. > I am awareness itself " > > When you know this, > You have no thought > For what you have done > Or left undone. > > You become one, > Perfect and indivisible. > > " I am in all things, > From Brahma to a blade of grass. " > > When you know this, > You have no thought > For success or failure > Or the mind's inconstancy. > > You are pure. > You are still. > > The world with all its wonders > Is nothing. > > When you know this, > Desire melts away. > > For you are awareness itself. > > When you know in your heart > That there is nothing, > You are still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 - bondzai Nisargadatta Thursday, March 07, 2002 09:33 PM Re: Stillness - Ashtavakra Gita Jan, isn't the ashtavakara gita just rehashed (Hinduized) Buddhism? Except the AG was a bit earlier than Buddhism. Some thousand years or so. So you might say Buddhism is a rehashed ashtavakarism. Except it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Bondzai, So what-difference does it make, if it is- 'just rehashed.' Isn't most of what is said. Scholars and pandits can worry about that. Or kill each other about it. As they very well have done for centuries. These kinds of " translated " poetic words are just pointing, like a dog that point to its bowl when its time to eat. take it easy, John Nisargadatta, " bondzai " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > Jan, isn't the ashtavakara gita just rehashed (Hinduized) Buddhism? > > Nisargadatta, Jan Sultan <swork@m...> wrote: > > All things arise, > > Suffer change, > > And pass away. > > > > This is their nature. > > > > When you know this, > > Nothing perturbs you, > > Nothing hurts you. > > > > You become still. > > > > It is easy. > > > > God made all things. > > There is only God. > > > > When you know this, > > Desire melts away. > > > > Clinging to nothing, > > You become still. > > > > Sooner or later, > > Fortune or misfortune > > May befall you. > > > > When you know this, > > You desire nothing, > > You grieve for nothing. > > > > Subduing the senses, > > You are happy. > > > > Whatever you do > > Brings joy or sorrow, > > Life or death. > > > > When you know this, > > You may act freely, > > Without attachment. > > > > For what is there to accomplish? > > > > All sorrow comes from fear. > > From nothing else. > > > > When you know this, > > You become free of it, > > And desire melts away. > > > > You become happy > > And still. > > > > " I am not the body, > > Nor is the body mine. > > I am awareness itself " > > > > When you know this, > > You have no thought > > For what you have done > > Or left undone. > > > > You become one, > > Perfect and indivisible. > > > > " I am in all things, > > From Brahma to a blade of grass. " > > > > When you know this, > > You have no thought > > For success or failure > > Or the mind's inconstancy. > > > > You are pure. > > You are still. > > > > The world with all its wonders > > Is nothing. > > > > When you know this, > > Desire melts away. > > > > For you are awareness itself. > > > > When you know in your heart > > That there is nothing, > > You are still. Nisargadatta, " bondzai " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > Jan, isn't the ashtavakara gita just rehashed (Hinduized) Buddhism? > > Nisargadatta, Jan Sultan <swork@m...> wrote: > > All things arise, > > Suffer change, > > And pass away. > > > > This is their nature. > > > > When you know this, > > Nothing perturbs you, > > Nothing hurts you. > > > > You become still. > > > > It is easy. > > > > God made all things. > > There is only God. > > > > When you know this, > > Desire melts away. > > > > Clinging to nothing, > > You become still. > > > > Sooner or later, > > Fortune or misfortune > > May befall you. > > > > When you know this, > > You desire nothing, > > You grieve for nothing. > > > > Subduing the senses, > > You are happy. > > > > Whatever you do > > Brings joy or sorrow, > > Life or death. > > > > When you know this, > > You may act freely, > > Without attachment. > > > > For what is there to accomplish? > > > > All sorrow comes from fear. > > From nothing else. > > > > When you know this, > > You become free of it, > > And desire melts away. > > > > You become happy > > And still. > > > > " I am not the body, > > Nor is the body mine. > > I am awareness itself " > > > > When you know this, > > You have no thought > > For what you have done > > Or left undone. > > > > You become one, > > Perfect and indivisible. > > > > " I am in all things, > > From Brahma to a blade of grass. " > > > > When you know this, > > You have no thought > > For success or failure > > Or the mind's inconstancy. > > > > You are pure. > > You are still. > > > > The world with all its wonders > > Is nothing. > > > > When you know this, > > Desire melts away. > > > > For you are awareness itself. > > > > When you know in your heart > > That there is nothing, > > You are still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 I'm no expert on India. I'm sure Astavakra probably lived a long time ago. Anyway, my copy is 1990. Yet, seriously, wouldn't you think this is more like 1400 AD? Paul Nisargadatta, " Sandeep Chatterjee " <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > > - > bondzai > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 07, 2002 09:33 PM > Re: Stillness - Ashtavakra Gita > > > Jan, isn't the ashtavakara gita just rehashed (Hinduized) Buddhism? > Except the AG was a bit earlier than Buddhism. > Some thousand years or so. > > So you might say Buddhism is a rehashed ashtavakarism. > > Except it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 The AG is a "chewing blades of grass", oops I mean profound conversation between the dude and Emperor Janak, which happened, some thousand years before Buddha came swinging by. For what it is worth. For anything said by anybody to somebody, anywhere, at any time, ever, is a rehashed concept. - bondzai Nisargadatta Friday, March 08, 2002 04:29 AM Re: Stillness - Ashtavakra Gita I'm no expert on India. I'm sure Astavakra probably lived a long time ago. Anyway, my copy is 1990. Yet, seriously, wouldn't you think this is more like 1400 AD?Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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