Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 A story one keeps telling: The living teacher is closer to me than skin is to my face. Here is one who animates all the teachers with whom individuals have contact. -- Dan > The following passage is what struck me in the post, especially with > connection to people here who keep telling their own story without > having any direct contact with any teacher. > > This is not a criticism, but a suggestion for reflection. > > Good wishes, > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Yes, there is a tendency in about all of us to keep telling our own story. My impression is that truth is not one of these stories but rather that truth may be experienced in moments when we are able to keep these stories aside. I am neither articulate nor have a good understanding of the way one can get out of one's way. Perhaps reading Krishnamurti's book " The First and last Freedom " may help us get some understanding ... to the extent we can keep ourselves aside while absorbing what he has so lovingly tried to share. Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > A story one keeps telling: > > The living teacher is closer to me > than skin is to my face. > > Here is one who animates all the teachers > with whom individuals have contact. > > -- Dan > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 > Yes, there is a tendency in about all of us to keep telling our own > story. Ah -- so that's your story about " all of us. " :-) Allow me then to add this story to yours: We tell our own story because we then know from where we are coming, we maintain our ground, which is in the past. We alleviate our anxiety about groundlessness, the unknown, through our individual and collective stories. We presume to give form to nothingness... > > My impression is that truth is not one of these stories but rather > that truth may be experienced in moments when we are able to keep > these stories aside. If the story is temporarily being kept aside, then the idea that one must keep one's story aside, has become one's current story. So the story continues, and the story-line now includes the idea, " I temporarily kept my story aside and experienced a moment of truth. " Can one say that the story is not, and truth is? > > I am neither articulate nor have a good understanding of the way one > can get out of one's way. > Perhaps reading Krishnamurti's book " The First and last Freedom " may > help us get some understanding ... to the extent we can keep > ourselves aside while absorbing what he has so lovingly tried to > share. Perhaps -- but I'm curious, if you don't have such an understanding, then how is it that you recommend Krishnamurti's book to help another? And if not to reach a good understanding, how has it helped you? If I follow your recommendation, will I not then absorb his story about what it's supposedly like not to rely on a story? I will then be either a believer or disbeliever in Krishnamurti's account of truth. Does not being beyond any story require one to be beyond any account of truth absorbed from something someone else has written? Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hello Dan. Just look at your mail & reflect... Does it serve any purpose? Does it really help any reader here? Or do you just write here to occupy yourself? Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > Yes, there is a tendency in about all of us to keep telling our own > > story. > > Ah -- so that's your story about " all of us. " :-) > > Allow me then to add this story to yours: > We tell our own story because we then know from > where we are coming, we maintain our ground, > which is in the past. We alleviate > our anxiety about groundlessness, the unknown, > through our individual and collective stories. > We presume to give form to nothingness... > > > > > My impression is that truth is not one of these stories but rather > > that truth may be experienced in moments when we are able to keep > > these stories aside. > > If the story is temporarily being kept aside, then the idea that > one must keep one's story aside, has become one's > current story. So the story continues, and the > story-line now includes the idea, " I temporarily kept > my story aside and experienced a moment of truth. " > > Can one say that the story is not, and truth is? > > > > > I am neither articulate nor have a good understanding of the way one > > can get out of one's way. > > Perhaps reading Krishnamurti's book " The First and last Freedom " may > > help us get some understanding ... to the extent we can keep > > ourselves aside while absorbing what he has so lovingly tried to > > share. > > Perhaps -- but I'm curious, > if you don't have such an understanding, then how is > it that you recommend Krishnamurti's book to help another? > > And if not to reach a good understanding, how has it helped you? > If I follow your recommendation, will I not > then absorb his story about what it's supposedly > like not to rely on a story? I will then be either > a believer or disbeliever in Krishnamurti's account of truth. > > Does not being beyond any story require one to > be beyond any account of truth absorbed from > something someone else has written? > > Love, > Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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