Message for Dan---One keeps telling one's own story

[Guest guest]

Oh my God!

 

Dan, I really wonder what purpose your post has served.. but that (my

wondering) is not the important thing for you.

 

I suggest... you reflect over this post.

 

Why do you write here?

 

Do you write here to share your understanding and with the intention

that it may help another?

Or ...

Do you write here to keep yourself occupied & pass your time?

Or ...

It's just a mechanical flow... some comments evoke some thoughts in

you & this is the forum where these find expression.

 

Really, I hope you ponder over what you are doing here.

 

I'm speculating here... but I think you may well be tempted to

express some advaitist concepts which would not really have any

value...let me give 2 examples (of what, in my opinion would be

useless comments/questions)...

 

There is no purpose...

How can someone help another when there is no other?

 

I wish you well.

 

Sundeep

 

 

 

 

 

>

> Ah -- so that's your story about " all of us. " :-)

>

> Allow me then to add this story to yours:

> We tell our own story because we then know from

> where we are coming, we maintain our ground,

> which is in the past. We alleviate

> our anxiety about groundlessness, the unknown,

> through our individual and collective stories.

> We presume to give form to nothingness...

>

> If the story is temporarily being kept aside, then the idea that

> one must keep one's story aside, has become one's

> current story. So the story continues, and the

> story-line now includes the idea, " I temporarily kept

> my story aside and experienced a moment of truth. "

>

> Can one say that the story is not, and truth is?

>

>

> Perhaps -- but I'm curious,

> if you don't have such an understanding, then how is

> it that you recommend Krishnamurti's book to help another?

>

> And if not to reach a good understanding, how has it helped you?

> If I follow your recommendation, will I not

> then absorb his story about what it's supposedly

> like not to rely on a story? I will then be either

> a believer or disbeliever in Krishnamurti's account of truth.

>

> Does not being beyond any story require one to

> be beyond any account of truth absorbed from

> something someone else has written?

>

> Love,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

" How can someone help another when there is no other? "

Sundeep.

 

 

Can I not help Myself?

El

 

 

..

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, but it seems there is some misunderstanding.

 

I used this quote to show how advaitist concepts can be misunderstood.

 

>

> " How can someone help another when there is no other? "

> Sundeep.

>

>

> Can I not help Myself?

> El

>

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta, " i_wish_2b " <i_wish_2b> wrote:

> Oh my God!

 

Indeed!

 

>

> Dan, I really wonder what purpose your post has served.. but that (my

> wondering) is not the important thing for you.

>

> I suggest... you reflect over this post.

>

> Why do you write here?

 

You are seeking to find why's,

I see. Good luck with your quest :-)

 

" What is " doesn't provide why's, which

exist only for the causally-focused mind ...

 

And " what is " provides all why's, constituted

to satisfy an inquiring mind, for the moment

in which mind believes it requires a " why " ...

and thus temporarily takes itself as a mind

that has a why ...

 

>

> Do you write here to share your understanding and with the intention

> that it may help another?

> Or ...

> Do you write here to keep yourself occupied & pass your time?

> Or ...

> It's just a mechanical flow... some comments evoke some thoughts in

> you & this is the forum where these find expression.

 

Pick any of these stories that satisfies you in this moment.

 

Or not. :-)

 

>

> Really, I hope you ponder over what you are doing here.

 

I leave you to look into this hope and how

it serves you -- or not :-)

 

>

> I'm speculating here... but I think you may well be tempted to

> express some advaitist concepts which would not really have any

> value...let me give 2 examples (of what, in my opinion would be

> useless comments/questions)...

 

Yes, you are speculating here.

An accurate observation. :-)

 

>

> There is no purpose...

> How can someone help another when there is no other?

>

> I wish you well.

 

Thanks for your well wishes and other comments.

All very purposeful and helpful, I'm sure :-)

 

Dan

 

>

> Sundeep

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Ah -- so that's your story about " all of us. " :-)

> >

> > Allow me then to add this story to yours:

> > We tell our own story because we then know from

> > where we are coming, we maintain our ground,

> > which is in the past. We alleviate

> > our anxiety about groundlessness, the unknown,

> > through our individual and collective stories.

> > We presume to give form to nothingness...

> >

> > If the story is temporarily being kept aside, then the idea that

> > one must keep one's story aside, has become one's

> > current story. So the story continues, and the

> > story-line now includes the idea, " I temporarily kept

> > my story aside and experienced a moment of truth. "

> >

> > Can one say that the story is not, and truth is?

> >

> >

> > Perhaps -- but I'm curious,

> > if you don't have such an understanding, then how is

> > it that you recommend Krishnamurti's book to help another?

> >

> > And if not to reach a good understanding, how has it helped you?

> > If I follow your recommendation, will I not

> > then absorb his story about what it's supposedly

> > like not to rely on a story? I will then be either

> > a believer or disbeliever in Krishnamurti's account of truth.

> >

> > Does not being beyond any story require one to

> > be beyond any account of truth absorbed from

> > something someone else has written?

> >

> > Love,

> > Dan