Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 That was verbal diarrhea at it's gooey ,yellowy smelliest avatar , Colin. :-). I have a question for others. What do you associate yourself with when you mail on this list 1) a " confused " seeker 2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the guru et al ) and on right track but still has some intellectual clarifications that need working on . 3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through this psychosomatic apparatus that is you What " are " you when you mail on theis e-group? Anand. --- Colin Yardley <yardley wrote: > > - > elizabeth_wells2001 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:39 AM > Re: SV: BE! > > > Nisargadatta, " skydancer " > <skydancer@n...> wrote: > > > > if you go into joy and bliss and silence then > you don't have any > thoughts > > > > ---- > > > True Silence is where " you " are not. > > So how do " you " plan to go into This Silence? > > Presumably, this question is being asked from > outside the silence, otherwise how could " you " > possibly ask it? " I " would argue that disappearing > up one's own patoot is not the only viable > ontological option. Co-rectal me if I'm wrong. All > this nonsense about " you " who are not really there > just begs the obvious questions about the paradox of > manifestation qua manifestation. viz., CanI bite my > own teeth? Can I hoist my own petard? Who is asking? > Who is answering? Most of all, who gives a shit? > > Yesterday upon the stair > I met a man who wasn't there. > He wasn't there again today. > I wish to God he'd go away. (Ogden Nash) > > Maybe there is something more interesting to > notice than our contingent, unreal existence as > nonbinding modifications of a consciousness that > possesses no ultimate ontic quiddity. We sort of > come around, via severalJoycian commodius vices of > recirculation, to the realization that any game is > better than no game at all. Why press the quit > button so soon? > > serious shit kicking love, > > Colin > > Colin > > > > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Well theres two of me.. theres the puppet and the puppet masters.. the puppet masters watches and the puppet dances..see - Anand Eswaran Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:17 PM Who are you? That was verbal diarrhea at it's gooey ,yellowysmelliest avatar , Colin. :-).I have a question for others.What do you associate yourself with when you mail onthis list1) a "confused" seeker2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the guruet al ) and on right track but still has someintellectual clarifications that need working on .3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through thispsychosomatic apparatus that is youWhat "are" you when you mail on theis e-group?Anand. --- Colin Yardley <yardley wrote: > > - > elizabeth_wells2001 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:39 AM> Re: SV: BE!> > > Nisargadatta, "skydancer"> <skydancer@n...> wrote:> > > > if you go into joy and bliss and silence then> you don't have any > thoughts> > > > ----> > > True Silence is where "you" are not.> > So how do "you" plan to go into This Silence?> > Presumably, this question is being asked from> outside the silence, otherwise how could "you"> possibly ask it? "I" would argue that disappearing> up one's own patoot is not the only viable> ontological option. Co-rectal me if I'm wrong. All> this nonsense about "you" who are not really there> just begs the obvious questions about the paradox of> manifestation qua manifestation. viz., CanI bite my> own teeth? Can I hoist my own petard? Who is asking?> Who is answering? Most of all, who gives a shit? > > Yesterday upon the stair> I met a man who wasn't there.> He wasn't there again today.> I wish to God he'd go away. (Ogden Nash)> > Maybe there is something more interesting to> notice than our contingent, unreal existence as> nonbinding modifications of a consciousness that> possesses no ultimate ontic quiddity. We sort of> come around, via severalJoycian commodius vices of> recirculation, to the realization that any game is> better than no game at all. Why press the quit> button so soon?> > serious shit kicking love,> > Colin> > Colin > > > > > > .> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 thats of course fron the aspect of separation coz of course i am really you - skydancer Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:31 PM Re: Who are you? Well theres two of me.. theres the puppet and the puppet masters.. the puppet masters watches and the puppet dances..see - Anand Eswaran Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:17 PM Who are you? That was verbal diarrhea at it's gooey ,yellowysmelliest avatar , Colin. :-).I have a question for others.What do you associate yourself with when you mail onthis list1) a "confused" seeker2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the guruet al ) and on right track but still has someintellectual clarifications that need working on .3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through thispsychosomatic apparatus that is youWhat "are" you when you mail on theis e-group?Anand. --- Colin Yardley <yardley wrote: > > - > elizabeth_wells2001 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:39 AM> Re: SV: BE!> > > Nisargadatta, "skydancer"> <skydancer@n...> wrote:> > > > if you go into joy and bliss and silence then> you don't have any > thoughts> > > > ----> > > True Silence is where "you" are not.> > So how do "you" plan to go into This Silence?> > Presumably, this question is being asked from> outside the silence, otherwise how could "you"> possibly ask it? "I" would argue that disappearing> up one's own patoot is not the only viable> ontological option. Co-rectal me if I'm wrong. All> this nonsense about "you" who are not really there> just begs the obvious questions about the paradox of> manifestation qua manifestation. viz., CanI bite my> own teeth? Can I hoist my own petard? Who is asking?> Who is answering? Most of all, who gives a shit? > > Yesterday upon the stair> I met a man who wasn't there.> He wasn't there again today.> I wish to God he'd go away. (Ogden Nash)> > Maybe there is something more interesting to> notice than our contingent, unreal existence as> nonbinding modifications of a consciousness that> possesses no ultimate ontic quiddity. We sort of> come around, via severalJoycian commodius vices of> recirculation, to the realization that any game is> better than no game at all. Why press the quit> button so soon?> > serious shit kicking love,> > Colin> > Colin > > > > > > .> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 I have a question for others.What do you associate yourself with when you mail onthis list1) a "confused" seeker2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the guruet al ) and on right track but still has someintellectual clarifications that need working on .3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through thispsychosomatic apparatus that is youWhat "are" you when you mail on theis e-group?Anand. Dear Anand: Persons in category 1 will be too embarrassed to submit. Those in category 2 will just argue with you. And those in category 3 will keep insisting that there is no "you" to constitute a valid apparatus. So why bother? Further, in light of the following, I would submit that your three categories be expanded :-) 'I am awake.' - Guatama Buddha 'I am prior to consciousness.' - Nisargadatta ' I am the way,' - Christ ' I am a little world made cunningly Of elements and an angelic sprite.' - John Donne 'I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections, and the truth of imagination.' - John Keats ' I am the walrus.' - P. McCartney ' I am what I am and that's all what I am' - Popeye 'I seem to be a crowd.' - James Hillman 'I am a lie who always speaks the truth.' - Jean Cocteau 'I am an unpopular electric eel set in a pond of goldfish.' - Dame Edith Sitwell 'I am large. I contain multitudes.' - Walt Whitman 'I think that I am better than the people who are trying to reform me.' - Goethe 'I'm your freight train, baby' - Rufus 'Blind Melon' Madison 'I am nauseous.' - Jean Paul Satre 'I don't consider myself outside of anything. I just consider myself not around.' - Bob Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Colin, Thanks! That was a multi-hued resplendent perspective on who " I am " ( I esp liked the alter-ego advaitic Pop-Eye) :-D However, why not ASSUME that you are pure consciousness. Like Maharaj says " Associate with Krishna when you read the Gita and becomeone with him " .Similarly,why not quit " acting " (for you know ,atleast have faith that you are but acting ,pain is as unreal as your name) the miserable seeker that you associate with. Assume you are that and become it! Where is the contradiction? I think it is that people do not want to acknowledge that they are fundamentally perfect.Sounds too good to be true! Hence they hold onto their deficiencies and " become " it! Namaste, Anand. --- Colin Yardley <yardley wrote: > > I have a question for others. > What do you associate yourself with when you mail > on > this list > 1) a " confused " seeker > 2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the > guru > et al ) and on right track but still has some > intellectual clarifications that need working on . > 3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through > this > psychosomatic apparatus that is you > > What " are " you when you mail on theis e-group? > > Anand. > > Dear Anand: > Persons in category 1 will be too embarrassed to > submit. Those in category 2 will just argue with > you. And those in category 3 will keep insisting > that there is no " you " to constitute a valid > apparatus. So why bother? Further, in light of the > following, I would submit that your three categories > be expanded :-) > > 'I am awake.' > - Guatama Buddha > > 'I am prior to consciousness.' > - Nisargadatta > > ' I am the way,' > - Christ > > ' I am a little world made cunningly > Of elements and an angelic sprite.' > - John Donne > > 'I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the > heart's affections, and the truth of imagination.' > - John Keats > > ' I am the walrus.' > - P. McCartney > > ' I am what I am and that's all what I am' > - Popeye > > 'I seem to be a crowd.' > - James Hillman > > 'I am a lie who always speaks the truth.' > - Jean Cocteau > > 'I am an unpopular electric eel set in a pond of > goldfish.' > - Dame Edith Sitwell > > 'I am large. I contain multitudes.' > - Walt Whitman > > 'I think that I am better than the people who are > trying to reform me.' > - Goethe > > 'I'm your freight train, baby' > - Rufus 'Blind Melon' Madison > > 'I am nauseous.' > - Jean Paul Satre > > 'I don't consider myself outside of anything. I > just consider myself not around.' > - Bob Dylan > > > > ______________________ For live cricket scores download Score Tracker at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Colin, Thanks! That was a multi-hued resplendentperspective on who "I am" ( I esp liked the alter-egoadvaitic Pop-Eye) :-D However, why not ASSUME that you are pureconsciousness. Like Maharaj says "Associate with Krishna when youread the Gita and becomeone with him".Similarly,whynot quit "acting"(for you know ,atleast have faith that you are but acting ,pain is as unreal as yourname) the miserable seeker that you associate with. Assume you are that and become it!Where is the contradiction? I think it is that peopledo not want to acknowledge that they are fundamentallyperfect.Sounds too good to be true!Hence they hold onto their deficiencies and "become"it!Namaste,Anand.Pure gold! Thanks, Anand. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'm not what I think I am, no matter what I think I am. So seeing myself thinking I am this or that, I'm liable to break out in laughter, or tears. andrew Anand Eswaran wrote: > > Colin, > > Thanks! That was a multi-hued resplendent > perspective on who " I am " ( I esp liked the alter-ego > advaitic Pop-Eye) :-D > > However, why not ASSUME that you are pure > consciousness. > > Like Maharaj says " Associate with Krishna when you > read the Gita and becomeone with him " .Similarly,why > not quit " acting " (for you know ,atleast have faith > that you are but acting ,pain is as unreal as your > name) the miserable seeker that you associate with. > Assume you are that and become it! > > Where is the contradiction? I think it is that people > do not want to acknowledge that they are fundamentally > perfect.Sounds too good to be true! > > Hence they hold onto their deficiencies and " become " > it! > > Namaste, > Anand. > > > --- Colin Yardley <yardley wrote: > > > I have a question for others. > > What do you associate yourself with when you mail > > on > > this list > > 1) a " confused " seeker > > 2) a person who knows he's blessed (Grace of the > > guru > > et al ) and on right track but still has some > > intellectual clarifications that need working on . > > 3) pure Consciousness expressing itself through > > this > > psychosomatic apparatus that is you > > > > What " are " you when you mail on theis e-group? > > > > Anand. > > > > Dear Anand: > > Persons in category 1 will be too embarrassed to > > submit. Those in category 2 will just argue with > > you. And those in category 3 will keep insisting > > that there is no " you " to constitute a valid > > apparatus. So why bother? Further, in light of the > > following, I would submit that your three categories > > be expanded :-) > > > > 'I am awake.' > > - Guatama Buddha > > > > 'I am prior to consciousness.' > > - Nisargadatta > > > > ' I am the way,' > > - Christ > > > > ' I am a little world made cunningly > > Of elements and an angelic sprite.' > > - John Donne > > > > 'I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the > > heart's affections, and the truth of imagination.' > > - John Keats > > > > ' I am the walrus.' > > - P. McCartney > > > > ' I am what I am and that's all what I am' > > - Popeye > > > > 'I seem to be a crowd.' > > - James Hillman > > > > 'I am a lie who always speaks the truth.' > > - Jean Cocteau > > > > 'I am an unpopular electric eel set in a pond of > > goldfish.' > > - Dame Edith Sitwell > > > > 'I am large. I contain multitudes.' > > - Walt Whitman > > > > 'I think that I am better than the people who are > > trying to reform me.' > > - Goethe > > > > 'I'm your freight train, baby' > > - Rufus 'Blind Melon' Madison > > > > 'I am nauseous.' > > - Jean Paul Satre > > > > 'I don't consider myself outside of anything. I > > just consider myself not around.' > > - Bob Dylan > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > For live cricket scores download Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Nisargadatta, andrew macnab <a.macnab@n...> wrote: > Beyond a shadow of a doubt, > I'm not what I think I am, > no matter what I think I am. ................ ................ -------- Yes. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Nisargadatta, " elizabeth_wells2001 " <elizabeth_wells2001> wrote: > Nisargadatta, andrew macnab <a.macnab@n...> > wrote: > > > Beyond a shadow of a doubt, > > I'm not what I think I am, > > no matter what I think I am. > ............... > ............... > > -------- > > > Yes. > > > . ----------- There is no thinker. Just a babbling brook. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 There is no thinker. Just a babbling brook. ---------------------------. Yes, Calm deep under oblivious to the babbling at the surface. Drown yourself and you shall know calmness. ______________________ For live cricket scores download Score Tracker at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Drown yourself and you shall know calmness. Anand ---------------------- No need. Just see there was never nothing there to start with, to drown. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Drown yourself and you shall know calmness. Anand ---------------------- No need. Just see there was never nothing there to start with, to drown. TRUE!Thanks,El Anand. ______________________ For live cricket scores download Score Tracker at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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