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> Dear Friends,

>

> I am not addressing this to the hysterical neurotics, the

> lovelorn, the sob sisters, the insecure, the angry, the know-it-alls,

> the distrustful ax-grinders, the smiley guys, the " oh yes, life is

> great, hallelujah " gang -- in other words, the general run of

> mental-emotional basket cases, that we see so often in so -called

> " spiritual. " circles. I hold out no hope for them

>

> sounds lite you don't lite yourself very shtrongly.. that are heavy

> negative emotional judgments to make against your own self..Hmmm

> humans they canned beed very odd..

>

**** Speak for yourself.

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> and sometimes one has to reach the heights of egocentricity

> before an ego death can take place... so go girl ! You

> might just be a few feet from shaktipat energy through the

> crown chakra :)

> No offence intended was just thinking aloud.. in innocence..

>

>

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" Straighten up and bow down! There's nooooo way around it! "

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> When you find yourself reacting with anger or

> opposition to any person or circumstance, realize

> that you are only struggling with yourself

>

> No anger, no opposition..

> people are free to hate themselves

>

>

***** Instead of continuing to hate yourself and struggling over it, why

don't you seek out some professional help? If you have some emotional

problems, deal with them directly, instead of looking to " spirtuality "

to escape them.

 

That's my advice.

 

Judi

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Judy,

 

I don't think you should look at " spirituality " as

an aspirin to life's problems.

 

Remeber, spirituality is the base, the substrate.

 

You cannot afford to conveniently use spirituality

in one aspect of your life and totally disregard it in

the other.

 

All that occurs takes place within this Web ,

including your seeking " emotional " advice.

 

Namaste,

Anand.

 

 

 

>Instead of continuing to hate yourself and struggling

>over it, why

>don't you seek out some professional help? If you

>have some emotional

>problems, deal with them directly, instead of looking

>to " spirtuality "

>to escape them.

 

>That's my advice.

 

>Judi

 

 

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Anand Eswaran wrote:

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> Judy,

>

> I don't think you should look at " spirituality " as

> an aspirin to life's problems.

>

****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking out against in the

first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that everyone seems to be

running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not there. Show me! :-)

 

 

> Remeber, spirituality is the base, the substrate.

>

******* That's your delusion.

 

 

> You cannot afford to conveniently use spirituality

> in one aspect of your life and totally disregard it in

> the other.

>

> All that occurs takes place within this Web ,

> including your seeking " emotional " advice.

>

> Namaste,

> Anand.

>

>

> >Instead of continuing to hate yourself and struggling

> >over it, why

> >don't you seek out some professional help? If you

> >have some emotional

> >problems, deal with them directly, instead of looking

> >to " spirtuality "

> >to escape them.

>

> >That's my advice.

>

> >Judi

>

> ______________________

> For live cricket scores download Score Tracker

> at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html

>

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Judi Rhodes wrote:

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> Anand Eswaran wrote:

> >

> > Judy,

> >

> > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " as

> > an aspirin to life's problems.

> >

> ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking out against in the

> first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that everyone seems to

> be

> running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not there. Show me! :-)

>

> > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the substrate.

> >

> ******* That's your delusion.

>

>

******

And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making a damn fool of

yourself, I don't know what else to tell you.

 

Here's the description from the home page of The End of the Rope Ranch

list.

 

This is a list for realizers and mature humans who aspire to such

realization. It is for those that have been around the block one too

many times and are now ready and willing to really start looking at the

truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering that's keeping

them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. This is not a refuge for

the emotionally immature or for those with psychological problems to

work out -- the

inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, the " New Age "

spirituality hobbyists and

those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how blissful, happy,

loving, smart, or

even how dumb they think they are simply need not apply here.

 

This is a list for those ready to cut through their own games, for those

willing to

wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the undermining and the

understanding of

that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its entirety -- and it's

for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of finally realizing

our true, newborn perceptual condition, a state that is not separation,

but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself.

 

Judi

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Judi Rhodes wrote:

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> Judi Rhodes wrote:

> >

> > Anand Eswaran wrote:

> > >

> > > Judy,

> > >

> > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " as

> > > an aspirin to life's problems.

> > >

> > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking out against in

> the

> > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that everyone seems to

> > be

> > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not there. Show me!

> :-)

> >

> > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the substrate.

> > >

> > ******* That's your delusion.

> >

>

*** And as my friend James refers to it as the ROCD disease, Religous

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

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Dear Friends, I am not addressing this to the hysterical neurotics, thelovelorn, the sob sisters, the insecure, the angry, the know-it-alls,the distrustful ax-grinders, the smiley guys, the "oh yes, life isgreat, hallelujah" gang -- in other words, the general run ofmental-emotional basket cases, that we see so often in so -called"spiritual." circles. I hold out no hope for them

 

sounds lite you don't lite yourself very shtrongly.. that are heavy negative emotional judgments to make against your own self..Hmmm humans they canned beed very odd..

 

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and sometimes one has to reach the heights of egocentricity before an ego death can take place... so go girl ! You might just be a few feet from shaktipat energy through the crown chakra :)

No offence intended was just thinking aloud.. in innocence..

 

Dear Friends, I am not addressing this to the hysterical neurotics, thelovelorn, the sob sisters, the insecure, the angry, the know-it-alls,the distrustful ax-grinders, the smiley guys, the "oh yes, life isgreat, hallelujah" gang -- in other words, the general run ofmental-emotional basket cases, that we see so often in so -called"spiritual." circles. I hold out no hope for them

 

sounds lite you don't lite yourself very shtrongly.. that are heavy negative emotional judgments to make against your own self..Hmmm humans they canned beed very odd..

 

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everywhere I look I see myself :)

 

skydancer wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > I am not addressing this to the hysterical neurotics, the> lovelorn, the sob sisters, the insecure, the angry, the know-it-alls,> the distrustful ax-grinders, the smiley guys, the "oh yes, life is> great, hallelujah" gang -- in other words, the general run of> mental-emotional basket cases, that we see so often in so -called> "spiritual." circles. I hold out no hope for them> > sounds lite you don't lite yourself very shtrongly.. that are heavy> negative emotional judgments to make against your own self..Hmmm> humans they canned beed very odd..> **** Speak for yourself.

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When you find yourself reacting with anger or opposition to any person or circumstance, realize that you are only struggling with yourself

 

No anger, no opposition..

people are free to hate themselves

 

 

 

 

I am not addressing this to the hysterical neurotics, thelovelorn, the sob sisters, the insecure, the angry, the know-it-alls,the distrustful ax-grinders, the smiley guys, the "oh yes, life isgreat, hallelujah" gang -- in other words, the general run ofmental-emotional basket cases, that we see so often in so -called"spiritual." circles. I hold out no hope for them

 

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