Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Dear Judi, :-) What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That's a thing that is totally beyond your control, so why not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole that I am. And does it make one bit of a difference that I make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it to you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don't think being a damned fool would matter one bit to you. Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the concept of damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness, moment-to-moment. The greatest qualities of the world's greatest teachers have always been utmost compassion and a belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me , Judy, why don't you? However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : Do see embedded resonses : >This is a list for realizers and mature humans who >aspire to such >realization. " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted in concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totally immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages of conditioning). >It is for those that have been around the block one >too >many times and are now ready and willing to really >start looking at the >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering >that's keeping >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. >This is not a refuge for >the emotionally immature or for those with >psychological problems to >work out -- the >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the " New Age " >spirituality hobbyists and >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how >blissful, happy, >loving, smart, or >even how dumb they think they are simply need not >apply here. Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes you any better than them? I hope you realize how much you echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you exclude people of any kind from this list. And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong in shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince you or anyone. . I shout because I love to! How can you really get judgemental about anything/anyone? Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? >This is a list for those ready to cut through their >own games, for those >willing to >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the >undermining and the >understanding of >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its >entirety -- and it's >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of >finally realizing >our true, newborn perceptual condition, Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure joy of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual condition " really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence is it not bullshit again? a state that >is not separation, >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever put to words on a mailing list are nothing but bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself ..Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! Even your anger is a concept ! :-) So let's all get beyond concepts (and bullshit),Judy. Namaste, Anand. Judi Rhodes wrote: > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > Judy, > > > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " as > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking out against in the > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that everyone seems to > be > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not there. Show me! :-) > > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the substrate. > > > ******* That's your delusion. > > ****** And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making a damn fool of yourself, I don't know what else to tell you. ______________________ For live cricket scores download Score Tracker at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Nisargadatta, " skydancer " <skydancer@n...> wrote: > Can sunbody please send my message of jelly babies to Anandas, > I was just haddin a few thinks so i thinked i would think them > mmm now Johns are got me thinkin more if they was a judgin rather than a thinkin > or a seein.. anyways it was just runnin out of me on its own accords so lets just had a few jellie babies > and forget all the tensions > How ya doin elf...Im wit ya on dem freaken tensions...Out heee in brooklyn we gots a saying...dont get ya knickers in a wad. Just freaken BE! > Namaskar Anandas > Namaskar > telled elf divin out the tree and runnin fast to seed all the noises. > Yoohoo yelled elf runnin faster than fasters.. > negative poles of material life create tensions and destroy the freedons and bliss of god consiousness. > Hmmm had sun of these, suck a few of these telled elf takin four neat jellie babies fron her pocket. > We are the bosses of ourselfs. > now what about a concept thinked elf,, I are a bit short on them, > Mmmm > world wars originate in the tensions of individual life. > Now thats a good one.. > and thought of God is not God > and thought of spirituality is not spirituality > thought of water is not water.. > Hmmm > anymore do you think i should think > when a human becomes happy his compassion grows > > negative pole of material life creates tensions > all vanities and egos.. > You beed you very shtrong Anandas telled elf.. and i willed beed me > > > > > Dear Judi, :-) > > What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That's > a thing that is totally beyond your control, so why > not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole that > I am. > > > And does it make one bit of a difference that I > make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it to > you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don't > think being a damned fool would matter one bit to you. > Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the concept > of damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness, > moment-to-moment. > > The greatest qualities of the world's greatest > teachers have always been utmost compassion and a > belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so > amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me , > Judy, why don't you? > > However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : > Do see embedded resonses : > > > >This is a list for realizers and mature humans who > >aspire to such > >realization. > > " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted in > concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totally > immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages of > conditioning). > > > >It is for those that have been around the block one > >too > >many times and are now ready and willing to really > >start looking at the > >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering > >that's keeping > >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. > > > >This is not a refuge for > >the emotionally immature or for those with > >psychological problems to > >work out -- the > >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the > " New Age " > >spirituality hobbyists and > >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how > >blissful, happy, > >loving, smart, or > >even how dumb they think they are simply need not > >apply here. > > Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes you > any better than them? I hope you realize how much you > echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you exclude > people of any kind from this list. > > And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being > blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong in > shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince you > or anyone. . I shout because I love to! > > How can you really get judgemental about > anything/anyone? > Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? > > > >This is a list for those ready to cut through their > >own games, for those > >willing to > >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the > >undermining and the > >understanding of > >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its > >entirety -- and it's > >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of > >finally realizing > >our true, newborn perceptual condition, > > > Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure joy > of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual > condition " really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence is > it not bullshit again? > > > > > > a state that >is not separation, > >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. > > > Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever > put to words on a mailing list are nothing but > bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself > .Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! > > Even your anger is a concept ! :-) > > So let's all get beyond concepts (and > bullshit),Judy. > > Namaste, > Anand. > > > > > Judi Rhodes wrote: > > > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " > as > > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking > out against in the > > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that > everyone seems to > > be > > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not > there. Show me! :-) > > > > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the > substrate. > > > > > ******* That's your delusion. > > > > > ****** > And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making > a damn fool of > yourself, I don't know what else to tell you. > > > > ____________________ __ > For live cricket scores download Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Anand Eswaran wrote: > > Dear Judi, :-) > **** Yes... what? :-) > What's the point ?. *** Sheesh! :-) You go back and read what I've written and perhaps take a gander thru my website here below and then you come back and tell me what the damn point is. Sheesh! http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hmmmm...them freakin jellbabies you send me ... them realle are wunderful... Hmmmmm..... Thank you, deer elfie. Anandas. --- skydancer <skydancer wrote: > Can sunbody please send my message of jelly babies > to Anandas, > I was just haddin a few thinks so i thinked i would > think them > mmm now Johns are got me thinkin more if they was a > judgin rather than a thinkin > or a seein.. anyways it was just runnin out of me on > its own accords so lets just had a few jellie babies > and forget all the tensions > > Namaskar Anandas > Namaskar > telled elf divin out the tree and runnin fast to > seed all the noises. > Yoohoo yelled elf runnin faster than fasters.. > negative poles of material life create tensions > and destroy the freedons and bliss of god > consiousness. > Hmmm had sun of these, suck a few of these telled > elf takin four neat jellie babies fron her pocket. > We are the bosses of ourselfs. > now what about a concept thinked elf,, I are a bit > short on them, > Mmmm > world wars originate in the tensions of individual > life. > Now thats a good one.. > and thought of God is not God > and thought of spirituality is not spirituality > thought of water is not water.. > Hmmm > anymore do you think i should think > when a human becomes happy his compassion grows > > negative pole of material life creates tensions > all vanities and egos.. > You beed you very shtrong Anandas telled elf.. and > i willed beed me > > > > > Dear Judi, :-) > > What's the point ?.You want me off the list? > That's > a thing that is totally beyond your control, so > why > not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole > that > I am. > > > And does it make one bit of a difference that I > make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does > it to > you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I > don't > think being a damned fool would matter one bit to > you. > Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the > concept > of damned fool is)! the heart knows just > happiness, > moment-to-moment. > > The greatest qualities of the world's greatest > teachers have always been utmost compassion and a > belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so > amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted > me , > Judy, why don't you? > > However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool > : > Do see embedded resonses : > > > >This is a list for realizers and mature humans > who > >aspire to such > >realization. > > " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted > in > concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become > totally > immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages > of > conditioning). > > > >It is for those that have been around the block > one > >too > >many times and are now ready and willing to > really > >start looking at the > >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant > suffering > >that's keeping > >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. > > > >This is not a refuge for > >the emotionally immature or for those with > >psychological problems to > >work out -- the > >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, > >the > " New Age " > >spirituality hobbyists and > >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about > how > >blissful, happy, > >loving, smart, or > >even how dumb they think they are simply need not > >apply here. > > Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes > you > any better than them? I hope you realize how much > you > echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you > exclude > people of any kind from this list. > > And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being > blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong > in > shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince > you > or anyone. . I shout because I love to! > > How can you really get judgemental about > anything/anyone? > Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? > > > >This is a list for those ready to cut through > their > >own games, for those > >willing to > >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the > >undermining and the > >understanding of > >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its > >entirety -- and it's > >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy > of > >finally realizing > >our true, newborn perceptual condition, > > > Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure > joy > of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual > condition " really means.Have you ever felt > it?Hence is > it not bullshit again? > > > > > > a state that >is not separation, > >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness > itself. > > > Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever > put to words on a mailing list are nothing but > bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself > .Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! > > Even your anger is a concept ! :-) > > So let's all get beyond concepts (and > bullshit),Judy. > > Namaste, > Anand. > > > > > Judi Rhodes wrote: > > > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > I don't think you should look at > " spirituality " > as > > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm > speaking > out against in the > > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense > that > === message truncated === ______________________ For live cricket scores download Score Tracker at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi Anand, I suggest you do not take it personally. It might simply be Judi's uncontrolable Karmic mission and delight, to throw out people from lists .. especialy the (according to her) hopeless idiots.. and since according to her, she is enlightened, she might be divinely appointed the right, to do as she pleases. I've been stamped by her as a very annoying ignoramus, and along with lots of insults and 4-letter words and threats (which I never used myself), she threw me out of a list, which she was/is the moderator of. According to some of her friends, that was good for my 'idiocy'. So that's the way it is,.. be as you are, or risk to be crucified. Regards, Jb Nisargadatta, Anand Eswaran <anandesw> wrote: > Dear Judi, :-) > > What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That's > a thing that is totally beyond your control, so why > not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole that > I am. > > > And does it make one bit of a difference that I > make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it to > you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don't > think being a damned fool would matter one bit to you. > Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the concept > of damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness, > moment-to-moment. > > The greatest qualities of the world's greatest > teachers have always been utmost compassion and a > belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so > amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me , > Judy, why don't you? > > However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : > Do see embedded resonses : > > > >This is a list for realizers and mature humans who > >aspire to such > >realization. > > " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted in > concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totally > immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages of > conditioning). > > > >It is for those that have been around the block one > >too > >many times and are now ready and willing to really > >start looking at the > >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering > >that's keeping > >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. > > > >This is not a refuge for > >the emotionally immature or for those with > >psychological problems to > >work out -- the > >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the > " New Age " > >spirituality hobbyists and > >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how > >blissful, happy, > >loving, smart, or > >even how dumb they think they are simply need not > >apply here. > > Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes you > any better than them? I hope you realize how much you > echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you exclude > people of any kind from this list. > > And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being > blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong in > shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince you > or anyone. . I shout because I love to! > > How can you really get judgemental about > anything/anyone? > Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? > > > >This is a list for those ready to cut through their > >own games, for those > >willing to > >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the > >undermining and the > >understanding of > >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its > >entirety -- and it's > >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of > >finally realizing > >our true, newborn perceptual condition, > > > Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure joy > of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual > condition " really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence is > it not bullshit again? > > > > > > a state that >is not separation, > >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. > > > Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever > put to words on a mailing list are nothing but > bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself > .Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! > > Even your anger is a concept ! :-) > > So let's all get beyond concepts (and > bullshit),Judy. > > Namaste, > Anand. > > > > > Judi Rhodes wrote: > > > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " > as > > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking > out against in the > > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that > everyone seems to > > be > > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not > there. Show me! :-) > > > > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the > substrate. > > > > > ******* That's your delusion. > > > > > ****** > And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making > a damn fool of > yourself, I don't know what else to tell you. > > > > ____________________ __ > For live cricket scores download Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 ....... " you " ........... " crucified " . Only crucified is not the right word. Evaporated is a better word. " Your constant utilization of thought to give continuity to your separate self is 'you'. There is nothing there inside you other than that. " http://www.well.com/user/jct/ ------------------------------ Nisargadatta, " new7892001 " <JB789@h...> wrote: > Hi Anand, > I suggest you do not take it personally. > It might simply be Judi's uncontrolable Karmic mission and delight, > to throw out people from lists .. especialy the (according to her) > hopeless idiots.. and since according to her, she is enlightened, she > might be divinely appointed the right, to do as she pleases. > I've been stamped by her as a very annoying ignoramus, and along with > lots of insults and 4-letter words and threats (which I never used > myself), she threw me out of a list, which she was/is the moderator > of. > According to some of her friends, that was good for my 'idiocy'. > So that's the way it is,.. be as you are, or risk to be crucified. > Regards, > Jb > > > Nisargadatta, Anand Eswaran <anandesw> wrote: > > Dear Judi, :-) > > > > What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That's > > a thing that is totally beyond your control, so why > > not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole that > > I am. > > > > > > And does it make one bit of a difference that I > > make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it to > > you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don't > > think being a damned fool would matter one bit to you. > > Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the concept > > of damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness, > > moment-to-moment. > > > > The greatest qualities of the world's greatest > > teachers have always been utmost compassion and a > > belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so > > amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me , > > Judy, why don't you? > > > > However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : > > Do see embedded resonses : > > > > > > >This is a list for realizers and mature humans who > > >aspire to such > > >realization. > > > > " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted in > > concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totally > > immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages of > > conditioning). > > > > > > >It is for those that have been around the block one > > >too > > >many times and are now ready and willing to really > > >start looking at the > > >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering > > >that's keeping > > >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. > > > > > > >This is not a refuge for > > >the emotionally immature or for those with > > >psychological problems to > > >work out -- the > > >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the > > " New Age " > > >spirituality hobbyists and > > >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how > > >blissful, happy, > > >loving, smart, or > > >even how dumb they think they are simply need not > > >apply here. > > > > Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes you > > any better than them? I hope you realize how much you > > echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you exclude > > people of any kind from this list. > > > > And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being > > blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong in > > shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince you > > or anyone. . I shout because I love to! > > > > How can you really get judgemental about > > anything/anyone? > > Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? > > > > > > >This is a list for those ready to cut through their > > >own games, for those > > >willing to > > >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the > > >undermining and the > > >understanding of > > >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its > > >entirety -- and it's > > >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of > > >finally realizing > > >our true, newborn perceptual condition, > > > > > > Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure joy > > of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual > > condition " really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence is > > it not bullshit again? > > > > > > > > > > > > a state that >is not separation, > > >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. > > > > > > Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever > > put to words on a mailing list are nothing but > > bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself > > .Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! > > > > Even your anger is a concept ! :-) > > > > So let's all get beyond concepts (and > > bullshit),Judy. > > > > Namaste, > > Anand. > > > > > > > > > > Judi Rhodes wrote: > > > > > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " > > as > > > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > > > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking > > out against in the > > > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that > > everyone seems to > > > be > > > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not > > there. Show me! :-) > > > > > > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the > > substrate. > > > > > > > ******* That's your delusion. > > > > > > > > ****** > > And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making > > a damn fool of > > yourself, I don't know what else to tell you. > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > For live cricket scores download Score Tracker > > at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Nisargadatta, " elizabeth_wells2001 " <elizabeth_wells2001> wrote: > > ...... " you " ........... " crucified " . > > Only crucified is not the right word. > Evaporated is a better word. > > " Your constant utilization of thought to give continuity to your > separate self is 'you'. There is nothing there inside you other > than that. " > > http://www.well.com/user/jct/ > -------------------------------- Somewhere Maharaj says in response to someone's question, of how the world is going to benefit from this pseudo-entity's absence. And Maharaj says, the world will be rid of a mighty nuisance! .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Nisargadatta, " new7892001 " <JB789@h...> wrote: > Hi Anand, > I suggest you do not take it personally. > It might simply be Judi's uncontrolable Karmic mission and delight, > to throw out people from lists .. especialy the (according to her) > hopeless idiots.. and since according to her, she is enlightened, she > might be divinely appointed the right, to do as she pleases. > I've been stamped by her as a very annoying ignoramus, and along with > lots of insults and 4-letter words and threats (which I never used > myself), she threw me out of a list, which she was/is the moderator > of. > According to some of her friends, that was good for my 'idiocy'. > So that's the way it is,.. be as you are, or risk to be crucified. > Regards, > Jb > If judy, could only stop her uncontrollable hypocrisy, and ignorance for even one instant, she might see what a complete fool she is pretending to be. regards, mike > > Nisargadatta, Anand Eswaran <anandesw> wrote: > > Dear Judi, :-) > > > > What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That's > > a thing that is totally beyond your control, so why > > not ignore me or better accept me as the asshole that > > I am. > > > > > > And does it make one bit of a difference that I > > make a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it to > > you? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don't > > think being a damned fool would matter one bit to you. > > Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the concept > > of damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness, > > moment-to-moment. > > > > The greatest qualities of the world's greatest > > teachers have always been utmost compassion and a > > belief of hope in humanity, a quality I find so > > amazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me , > > Judy, why don't you? > > > > However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : > > Do see embedded resonses : > > > > > > >This is a list for realizers and mature humans who > > >aspire to such > > >realization. > > > > " Maturity " :-) . What you call maturity is rooted in > > concepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totally > > immature (for what is maturity but levels and ages of > > conditioning). > > > > > > >It is for those that have been around the block one > > >too > > >many times and are now ready and willing to really > > >start looking at the > > >truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering > > >that's keeping > > >them mired in the " seeker " identity and role. > > > > > > >This is not a refuge for > > >the emotionally immature or for those with > > >psychological problems to > > >work out -- the > > >inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the > > " New Age " > > >spirituality hobbyists and > > >those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how > > >blissful, happy, > > >loving, smart, or > > >even how dumb they think they are simply need not > > >apply here. > > > > Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes you > > any better than them? I hope you realize how much you > > echo your own immaturity ,rigidity when you exclude > > people of any kind from this list. > > > > And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, being > > blessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong in > > shouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince you > > or anyone. . I shout because I love to! > > > > How can you really get judgemental about > > anything/anyone? > > Once you get judgemental, how can you be free? > > > > > > >This is a list for those ready to cut through their > > >own games, for those > > >willing to > > >wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the > > >undermining and the > > >understanding of > > >that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its > > >entirety -- and it's > > >for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of > > >finally realizing > > >our true, newborn perceptual condition, > > > > > > Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that " pure joy > > of finally realizing our true, newborn perceptual > > condition " really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence is > > it not bullshit again? > > > > > > > > > > > > a state that >is not separation, > > >but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. > > > > > > Spirituality means accepting that all you can ever > > put to words on a mailing list are nothing but > > bullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself > > .Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! > > > > Even your anger is a concept ! :-) > > > > So let's all get beyond concepts (and > > bullshit),Judy. > > > > Namaste, > > Anand. > > > > > > > > > > Judi Rhodes wrote: > > > > > > Anand Eswaran wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > > > I don't think you should look at " spirituality " > > as > > > > an aspirin to life's problems. > > > > > > > ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speaking > > out against in the > > > first place, all this " spirituality " nonsense that > > everyone seems to > > > be > > > running to, that " cream pie in the sky " . It's not > > there. Show me! :-) > > > > > > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, the > > substrate. > > > > > > > ******* That's your delusion. > > > > > > > > ****** > > And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just making > > a damn fool of > > yourself, I don't know what else to tell you. > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > For live cricket scores download Score Tracker > > at: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 > -------------------------------- > > Somewhere Maharaj says in response > to someone's question, > > of how the world is going to benefit from > this pseudo-entity's absence. > > And Maharaj says, > the world will be rid of a mighty nuisance! > > > . Not true. If the world would be rid of a mighty nuisance, then it would be a real entity, not a pseudo-entity. The truth is, it won't make any difference whatsoever in/to reality. None whatsoever. If the world is troubled by a pseudo-entity, then the world is also a pseudo-entity. Well, you ask, what about all the war, pollution, deception, violation, sorrow that this pseudo-entity causes? Answer: it doesn't cause any of it. That's why it's a pseudo-entity. If it could cause something, it would be a real entity. Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Quite true Dan, but you missed the jest of it. A dumb question gets a dumb answer. El Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Somewhere Maharaj says in response > > to someone's question, > > > > of how the world is going to benefit from > > this pseudo-entity's absence. > > > > And Maharaj says, > > the world will be rid of a mighty nuisance! > > > > > > . > > Not true. > > If the world would be rid of a mighty nuisance, > then it would be a real entity, not a pseudo-entity. > > The truth is, it won't make any difference whatsoever > in/to reality. None whatsoever. > > If the world is troubled by a pseudo-entity, then > the world is also a pseudo-entity. > > Well, you ask, > what about all the war, pollution, deception, > violation, sorrow that this pseudo-entity > causes? > > Answer: it doesn't cause any of it. > That's why it's a pseudo-entity. > > If it could cause something, it would be > a real entity. > > Love, > Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Nisargadatta, " elizabeth_wells2001 " <elizabeth_wells2001> wrote: > Quite true Dan, > but you missed the jest of it. > > A dumb question gets a dumb answer. > > El Yes, I was scared that's what was going on :-) But, at least what I said was true (according to El :-) So, I can console myself with that! And...you're right -- it was a funny dumb answer to a funny dumb question! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Namaskar Anandas Namaskar telled elf divin out the tree and runnin fast to seed all the noises. Yoohoo yelled elf runnin faster than fasters.. negative poles of material life create tensions and destroy the freedons and bliss of god consiousness. Hmmm had sun of these, suck a few of these telled elf takin four neat jellie babies fron her pocket. We are the bosses of ourselfs. now what about a concept thinked elf,, I are a bit short on them, Mmmm world wars originate in the tensions of individual life. Now thats a good one.. and thought of God is not God and thought of spirituality is not spirituality thought of water is not water.. Hmmm anymore do you think i should think when a human becomes happy his compassion grows negative pole of material life creates tensions all vanities and egos.. You beed you very shtrong Anandas telled elf.. and i willed beed me Dear Judi, :-) What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That'sa thing that is totally beyond your control, so whynot ignore me or better accept me as the asshole thatI am. And does it make one bit of a difference that Imake a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it toyou? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don'tthink being a damned fool would matter one bit to you.Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the conceptof damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness,moment-to-moment. The greatest qualities of the world's greatestteachers have always been utmost compassion and abelief of hope in humanity, a quality I find soamazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me ,Judy, why don't you? However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : Do see embedded resonses :>This is a list for realizers and mature humans who>aspire to such>realization. "Maturity" :-) . What you call maturity is rooted inconcepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totallyimmature (for what is maturity but levels and ages ofconditioning).>It is for those that have been around the block one>too>many times and are now ready and willing to really>start looking at the>truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering>that's keeping>them mired in the "seeker" identity and role.>This is not a refuge for>the emotionally immature or for those with>psychological problems to>work out -- the>inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the"New Age">spirituality hobbyists and>those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how>blissful, happy,>loving, smart, or>even how dumb they think they are simply need not>apply here. Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes youany better than them? I hope you realize how much youecho your own immaturity ,rigidity when you excludepeople of any kind from this list. And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, beingblessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong inshouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince youor anyone. . I shout because I love to! How can you really get judgemental aboutanything/anyone?Once you get judgemental, how can you be free?>This is a list for those ready to cut through their>own games, for those>willing to>wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the>undermining and the>understanding of>that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its>entirety -- and it's>for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of>finally realizing>our true, newborn perceptual condition,Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that "pure joyof finally realizing our true, newborn perceptualcondition" really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence isit not bullshit again?a state that >is not separation,>but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. Spirituality means accepting that all you can everput to words on a mailing list are nothing butbullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself.Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! Even your anger is a concept ! :-) So let's all get beyond concepts (andbullshit),Judy.Namaste,Anand. Judi Rhodes wrote:> > Anand Eswaran wrote:> >> > Judy,> >> > I don't think you should look at "spirituality"as> > an aspirin to life's problems.> >> ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speakingout against in the> first place, all this "spirituality" nonsense thateveryone seems to> be> running to, that "cream pie in the sky". It's notthere. Show me! :-)> > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, thesubstrate.> >> ******* That's your delusion.> > ******And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just makinga damn fool ofyourself, I don't know what else to tell you.______________________For live cricket scores download Score Trackerat: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Can sunbody please send my message of jelly babies to Anandas, I was just haddin a few thinks so i thinked i would think them mmm now Johns are got me thinkin more if they was a judgin rather than a thinkin or a seein.. anyways it was just runnin out of me on its own accords so lets just had a few jellie babies and forget all the tensions Namaskar Anandas Namaskar telled elf divin out the tree and runnin fast to seed all the noises. Yoohoo yelled elf runnin faster than fasters.. negative poles of material life create tensions and destroy the freedons and bliss of god consiousness. Hmmm had sun of these, suck a few of these telled elf takin four neat jellie babies fron her pocket. We are the bosses of ourselfs. now what about a concept thinked elf,, I are a bit short on them, Mmmm world wars originate in the tensions of individual life. Now thats a good one.. and thought of God is not God and thought of spirituality is not spirituality thought of water is not water.. Hmmm anymore do you think i should think when a human becomes happy his compassion grows negative pole of material life creates tensions all vanities and egos.. You beed you very shtrong Anandas telled elf.. and i willed beed me Dear Judi, :-) What's the point ?.You want me off the list? That'sa thing that is totally beyond your control, so whynot ignore me or better accept me as the asshole thatI am. And does it make one bit of a difference that Imake a fool of myself.It doesn't to me, why does it toyou? If you really take spirituality to heart, I don'tthink being a damned fool would matter one bit to you.Live in the heart, not in the mind( where the conceptof damned fool is)! the heart knows just happiness,moment-to-moment. The greatest qualities of the world's greatestteachers have always been utmost compassion and abelief of hope in humanity, a quality I find soamazing in Buddha. The Buddha would have accepted me ,Judy, why don't you? However ,do know the opinion of this damned fool : Do see embedded resonses :>This is a list for realizers and mature humans who>aspire to such>realization. "Maturity" :-) . What you call maturity is rooted inconcepts. Take yourself less seriously, become totallyimmature (for what is maturity but levels and ages ofconditioning).>It is for those that have been around the block one>too>many times and are now ready and willing to really>start looking at the>truth of and in themselves, at the ignorant suffering>that's keeping>them mired in the "seeker" identity and role.>This is not a refuge for>the emotionally immature or for those with>psychological problems to>work out -- the>inveterate self-improvers, the humor-impaired, >the"New Age">spirituality hobbyists and>those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how>blissful, happy,>loving, smart, or>even how dumb they think they are simply need not>apply here. Why exclude these guys from the list.What makes youany better than them? I hope you realize how much youecho your own immaturity ,rigidity when you excludepeople of any kind from this list. And frankly, I do feel extremely happy, beingblessed by the grace of Nisarga, so what's wrong inshouting it out anyway!I don't shout yo convince youor anyone. . I shout because I love to! How can you really get judgemental aboutanything/anyone?Once you get judgemental, how can you be free?>This is a list for those ready to cut through their>own games, for those>willing to>wholeheartedly put themselves on the line for the>undermining and the>understanding of>that whole nonsensical separate adventure in its>entirety -- and it's>for sharing the humor, the love, and the pure joy of>finally realizing>our true, newborn perceptual condition,Conceptual bull . eg do you know what that "pure joyof finally realizing our true, newborn perceptualcondition" really means.Have you ever felt it?Hence isit not bullshit again?a state that >is not separation,>but rather wholeness, freedom, consciousness itself. Spirituality means accepting that all you can everput to words on a mailing list are nothing butbullshit ( In courtesy for Dan , I correct myself.Maybe its not bullshit but concept per se)! Even your anger is a concept ! :-) So let's all get beyond concepts (andbullshit),Judy.Namaste,Anand. Judi Rhodes wrote:> > Anand Eswaran wrote:> >> > Judy,> >> > I don't think you should look at "spirituality"as> > an aspirin to life's problems.> >> ****** I never said that. That's what I'm speakingout against in the> first place, all this "spirituality" nonsense thateveryone seems to> be> running to, that "cream pie in the sky". It's notthere. Show me! :-)> > > Remeber, spirituality is the base, thesubstrate.> >> ******* That's your delusion.> > ******And if it hasn't dawned on you that you're just makinga damn fool ofyourself, I don't know what else to tell you.______________________For live cricket scores download Score Trackerat: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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