Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Hmmm... Elf is thinkin wise thoths thoday.. ...be like Water.... that is sweetly wise... ... Has Elvish left town, though? Anandas. --- skydancer <skydancer wrote: > > You can think that you are doing all those things > -- then you live in ignorance. If you become aware > that the whole is doing everything, you are being > possessed by the whole, breathed by it, you are just > a hollow bamboo, a flute, the sound comes from the > whole, the whole life comes from it -- then you live > a life of enlightenment > > One step in error, that: " I have done it! " -- and > the whole journey goes wrong. One step right, that: > " The whole has been doing it in me, I am not the > doer, I am just the field of his play, a flute of > his songs, a reed, nothing more, an emptiness in > which he flows, moves, lives! " -- then you live a > totally different life, a life of light and bliss > > And always remember that whatsoever is done is > done by the whole, you are not the doer. If you can > remember that, then breath is his thirst, is his > hunger, is his sex, is his love, is his whatsoever > happens is his, death is his. And you remain > completely pure and innocent out of it. > Fire moves upwards, water moves " low-wards, " it > always goes towards the ocean, the lowest place in > the world. It seeks the low. If it can find a still > lower place it immediately starts moving. It is > always for the lowest place. Why? Because the lower > you move, the less competition, the less violence, > the less aggression -- and you are not fighting with > anybody;. and if you fight with anybody one thing is > certain: you cannot live yourself. The whole energy > becomes fight. > > Politicians never live their lives. They don't > have any time, They don't have any space, they don't > have any energy to live their life. They are always > fighting others. They end fighting. > > Water is very non-political. > > Be like water. Move, find the lowest place where > nobody is to compete, because nobody wants to go > there. Then you can relax. Then you can be yourself. > And that is the glory. > > And Lao Tzu says: My heaven is there -- low, the > lowest place in the world, where I can be myself, > nobody bothers me and I don't bother anybody. > > This is renunciation. You can live in the world, > then there is no problem, if you just know not to be > a competitor, because competition is for the ego. > For the being, for your real being, no competition > is needed; you are already that, the highest, so why > bother for height? > > Lao Tzu says this: Only inferior persons, people > with inferiority complexes, try to reach the > heights. > > All politicians suffer from an inferiority > complex. They need treatment, psychological > treatment. They need much cleansing. They are > inferior people -- deep down they suffer from > inferiority. To hide that inferiority they fight to > go high. When they reach, they become prime > ministers and presidents, then they can say to the > world: " Who says that I am inferior? Look! If I was > inferior then how could I have attained to such > heights? I am superior. " > > The longing for superiority belongs to the > inferior man. A superior man doesn't bother. A > superior man can afford to be inferior -- remember > this. A superior man can afford to be inferior > because it makes no difference, he is so superior; > he is superior, there is no point in becoming a > president of a country. That will not add anything > to his stature; rather, it may degrade him. Be Like > Water.. that was the message from the whole > > Firstly, > > Hitler was not at all > a sincere person who was honest. > > In fact, he described what he was > doing as a " Big Lie " saying that > if you repeat a big lie often enough, > people will believe it. > > He never hesitated to distort truth > or outright lie to achieve his goals, > for one example, please review your history > about > how the concentration camps were > lied about. > > One of his major goals included mass murder. > > So, secondly: you don't consider > there's a bit of projection > occurring when equating a mass murderer with > someone who posts things you don't > like? > > And thirdly: you are sure this comparison > is an expression of love and bliss? > > > > Hitler was a sincere person > > He stated honestly how he saw things > > Some people got riled up about his honesty... > > oh please > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Judy is a sincere person. > > > > She states honestly how she sees it. > > > > She seems to feel that when people get > > riled up by her honesty, that she's > > given them an opportunity to look > > at the balloons of inflated spiritualized > > self-esteem in which they try to live. > > > > Of course, the people she speaks to in this > > way often don't agree, point out that she's > > just talking about herself, she's the > inflated one, > > or she's a hypocrite, ignorant, > > etc. Sometimes they get really mad or > upset. > > > > And yet -- she keeps " exposing 'spiritual > trips' " nonetheless. > > > > She's like the energizer bunny. > > > > She keeps going, and going, and going. > > > > Quite remarkable. > > > > I asked her about this once, and she said, > > " it's a tough job, but someone has to do > it. " > > > > Go figure? > > > > Anyway, just thought I'd share my perspective > > of Judi, after having seen her antics > on-line > > for some time. > > > > :-) > > > > Love to all, > > Dan > > > > > > > If judy, could only stop her uncontrollable > hypocrisy, and > > ignorance > > > for even one instant, she might see what a > complete fool she is > > > pretending to be. > > > > > > regards, > > > mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 You can think that you are doing all those things -- then you live in ignorance. If you become aware that the whole is doing everything, you are being possessed by the whole, breathed by it, you are just a hollow bamboo, a flute, the sound comes from the whole, the whole life comes from it -- then you live a life of enlightenment One step in error, that: "I have done it!" -- and the whole journey goes wrong. One step right, that: "The whole has been doing it in me, I am not the doer, I am just the field of his play, a flute of his songs, a reed, nothing more, an emptiness in which he flows, moves, lives!" -- then you live a totally different life, a life of light and bliss And always remember that whatsoever is done is done by the whole, you are not the doer. If you can remember that, then breath is his thirst, is his hunger, is his sex, is his love, is his whatsoever happens is his, death is his. And you remain completely pure and innocent out of it. Fire moves upwards, water moves "low-wards," it always goes towards the ocean, the lowest place in the world. It seeks the low. If it can find a still lower place it immediately starts moving. It is always for the lowest place. Why? Because the lower you move, the less competition, the less violence, the less aggression -- and you are not fighting with anybody;. and if you fight with anybody one thing is certain: you cannot live yourself. The whole energy becomes fight. Politicians never live their lives. They don't have any time, They don't have any space, they don't have any energy to live their life. They are always fighting others. They end fighting. Water is very non-political. Be like water. Move, find the lowest place where nobody is to compete, because nobody wants to go there. Then you can relax. Then you can be yourself. And that is the glory. And Lao Tzu says: My heaven is there -- low, the lowest place in the world, where I can be myself, nobody bothers me and I don't bother anybody. This is renunciation. You can live in the world, then there is no problem, if you just know not to be a competitor, because competition is for the ego. For the being, for your real being, no competition is needed; you are already that, the highest, so why bother for height? Lao Tzu says this: Only inferior persons, people with inferiority complexes, try to reach the heights. All politicians suffer from an inferiority complex. They need treatment, psychological treatment. They need much cleansing. They are inferior people -- deep down they suffer from inferiority. To hide that inferiority they fight to go high. When they reach, they become prime ministers and presidents, then they can say to the world: "Who says that I am inferior? Look! If I was inferior then how could I have attained to such heights? I am superior." The longing for superiority belongs to the inferior man. A superior man doesn't bother. A superior man can afford to be inferior -- remember this. A superior man can afford to be inferior because it makes no difference, he is so superior; he is superior, there is no point in becoming a president of a country. That will not add anything to his stature; rather, it may degrade him. Be Like Water.. that was the message from the whole Firstly, Hitler was not at all a sincere person who was honest.In fact, he described what he was doing as a "Big Lie" saying that if you repeat a big lie often enough, people will believe it.He never hesitated to distort truth or outright lie to achieve his goals, for one example, please review your history about how the concentration camps were lied about.One of his major goals included mass murder.So, secondly: you don't consider there's a bit of projection occurring when equating a mass murderer with someone who posts things you don't like?And thirdly: you are sure this comparison is an expression of love and bliss?> Hitler was a sincere person> He stated honestly how he saw things> Some people got riled up about his honesty...> oh please> > > Hi Mike,> > Judy is a sincere person.> > She states honestly how she sees it.> > She seems to feel that when people get> riled up by her honesty, that she's> given them an opportunity to look> at the balloons of inflated spiritualized> self-esteem in which they try to live.> > Of course, the people she speaks to in this> way often don't agree, point out that she's> just talking about herself, she's the inflated one,> or she's a hypocrite, ignorant,> etc. Sometimes they get really mad or upset.> > And yet -- she keeps "exposing 'spiritual trips'" nonetheless.> > She's like the energizer bunny.> > She keeps going, and going, and going.> > Quite remarkable.> > I asked her about this once, and she said,> "it's a tough job, but someone has to do it."> > Go figure?> > Anyway, just thought I'd share my perspective> of Judi, after having seen her antics on-line> for some time.> > :-)> > Love to all,> Dan> > > > If judy, could only stop her uncontrollable hypocrisy, and > ignorance > > for even one instant, she might see what a complete fool she is > > pretending to be.> > > > regards,> > mike> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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