Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Leo, don't get carried away. It is not El's forum. It's Hur's forum. Dedicated is Nisargadatta. El -------------- Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > > >Cowboy named Robere, > > > > > >I see you are still here. > > > >As I told Manuel, who used to have a great forum > >on " A Net Of Jewels " , > > > >when he asked me if he should ban certain folks from > >posting (by the way, Judi was not one of them), > > > >I said, 'NO'. > > > > " Your forum is OPEN TO ALL. That is what makes it great! " > > > > > >El > > > > > >The premise of the Thirteen Moon Calendar Change Movement is that the > >current Gregorian Calendar and the mechanical clock constitue an artificial > >timing frequency which is responsible for human alienation from nature and > >the creation of a thoroughly materialistic civilization dominated by money > >and machines > According to Thirteen Moon Calendar Movement Messengers, Jose and Lloydine > Arguelles, " the calendar change is the only way to put the brakes on the > self-destructive course of present-day civilization. It is the only way to > stop the moral atrocities and environmental abuse that are now being > committed on behalf of the nationalism and economic development. Not only is > the Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar scientifically more regular and accurate > than the current twelve-month Gregorian Calendar, but its implementation > also represents a moment of prophetic truth for all of humanity. " > > Given the current state of the world dominated by G-7 banking interests and > the unilateral assertion of technological and military control of events > including the performance of the UNPROFOR in the Bosnia-Serbia Civil War, > the conclusion must be drawn that the United Nations is participating in the > moral failure and incompetence of democracy that now characterizes all of > world civilization. The behavior of the United Nations with regard to the > Thirteen Moon Calendar Change Peace Plan and Roerich Peace Pact > demonstarates that the collective will of the human species is bankrupt and > hopelessly at odds with its own best interests and the order of its natural > environment. > > In order to avoid ultimate catastrophe and to provide a legitemate basis for > reestablishing a genuine nonviolent, non-militaristic peace on this planet, > the Thirteen Moon Autonomous Peoples' Committees invoke the Roerich Peace > Pact and Banner of Peace to promote and establish the new time of thirteen > moons 28 days and the biospheric covenant of Earth Sovereignty to supersede > the United Nations as it is now constituted. > > Description of collective state of mind: twisted, self-absorbed, inhumane, > intolerant, morbidly fascinated, self-insulated in a bubble fortified by two > powerful illusions: 1) world supremacy, and 2) money. > > Result: world supremacy of money creating state of consciousness dominated > by reflexes of self-defensive retrenchment incapable of receiving any new > ideas or information; hence, genuine dialogue is non-existent, and should it > occur, is treated as life-threatening. > > The main information media and forms of entertainment are dominated by > images of violence, and the maintenance of massive military forces > considered a major political asset. Hence the society is riddled with > gratuitous violence of all kinds and the growth of anarchic vigilante or > militia groups. The central television media news focus for one year now has > been the murder case and trial (21 weeks running) of a former sports hero. > Following suit, the murder trial of a popular entertainer will soon be > featured on the chief music-entertainment television channel. Despite this > media fixation, the society elders act puzzled at the amount of violence and > general decay characterizing American society. > > Within this self-insulated bubble of dense, unquestioning ignorance, the > idea of social or any other change appears to be unnecessary. The relation > of the USA to the rest of the planet socially, politically, economically, > and environmentally is dominated by a profound " I'm OK, don't bother me, " > isolationism. The oligarchy has deeply entrenched itself in political power > exemplified by the Republican 104th Congress. The mass consciousness, > including that of the poorest people, is characterized by complacency, > apathy, and fear punctuated by random violence. The issue of job security is > continuously used to maintain the lid on free expression. Artistic genres > are characterized by violence, sentimentality and chaos. Rapidly engaged in > the most accelerated forms of cybernetic technology, any real continuity > with the past has been erased. The only commemorative events celebrated for > purpose of maintaining the image of world supremacy are the events > concerning the end of the last World War, as well as stock-in-trade > patriotic holidays. > > Intolerance of death and financial loss are characterized by massive medical > technology to prolong life artificially and by financial stock market which > only sets new, record highs. The insurance industry and burgeoning legal > profession assure that the intolerance of death and accidents of any kind > will be both lucrative and life-complicating. > > This overall state of mind has become 'permanent' since the end of the Cold > War, 1990, which actually ended the dialectic of history. At this point the > balance of power shifted unequivocally to the Americans and their powerful > industrial allies, all together known as the G-7. The notion that the > direction in which the American mind has solidified itself is totally at the > expense of the biosphere and the well-being of the rest of the planet is > unheard of and unthinkable. It is also true that the American state of mind > has forfeited any genuine self reflection and, immersed in its own form of > hedonistic eternalism, is incapable of grasping in any critical way its > self-defeating course of violence and destruction. > > Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Never before in the > 5,000-year history of civilization has one people or nation absolutely > dominated the rest of the planet in its entirety as does the USA today. Not > Rome, not Hitler's Germany, manifest such absolute power with so much abuse > of the truth. American military supremacy and the philosophy of military > force as the chief principle of political mediation are at the heart of > world affairs. > > From the point of view of the American mind there is no alternative > whatsoever to the current state and course of affairs. Lacking all > perspective, the inert momentum of the American will must be seen as a major > contributing factor to the impending castrophe that will very soon and > inevitably engulf the entire planet: the collapse of the planetary > biosphere. > > Recommendation: acts of divine intervention in the form of natural disasters > to break the belief system bubble and collapse the artificial economic > structure, while a critical mass 'underground' pursues enlightened return to > natural order through the World Thirteen Moon 28 Day Calendar Change Peace > Movement. > > It must be asked: What is it that will help the people and at the same time > help the Earth? > > The religion of truth and the religion of the Earth must be one: people of > the book reunited with the people of the dawn. This can only be done by > placing everyone in a new, common time that is in tune with the cycles of > nature and the Earth. This is the universal harmony accomplished by the > Thirteen Moon 28 day Calendar Change. > > The religion of truth is the religion of the Earth. Earth needs a religion > of truth that is not dogma, not money, not sect, and not anything defined by > boundaries, paper, or selfishness of any kind. Only truth will satisfy the > Earth. If asked: Of what religion are you? Answer: I am the religion of the > truth which is the religion of the Earth. > > The Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar Change is a fundamental change. It is not > a legislative change, but a change mandated by divine authority that > transcends and unifies all sects and creeds in a higher calling of the > Earth. > > Planetary service is the basis of the new time. Ask not what you can do for > yourself, your religion, or your country, but what you can do for your > planet. New groups of planetary servers are needed to transcend dogmas of > money, nationalism, and sectarianism of every kind. Who yet understand the > fundamentally spiritual nature and divine unity of all creation > > > > _______________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 > >Leo, don't get carried away. >It is not El's forum. >It's Hur's forum. >Dedicated is Nisargadatta. >El > >-------------- Ah ! and now I have a term of it.. its called sparking off I thought everything was perfect and exactly as its meant to be.. resistance versus allowance.. Okay heres a Nisargatta quote " Running after saints is merely another game to play " Leo > > >Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > > > > >Cowboy named Robere, > > > > > > > > >I see you are still here. > > > > > >As I told Manuel, who used to have a great forum > > >on " A Net Of Jewels " , > > > > > >when he asked me if he should ban certain folks from > > >posting (by the way, Judi was not one of them), > > > > > >I said, 'NO'. > > > > > > " Your forum is OPEN TO ALL. That is what makes it great! " > > > > > > > > >El > > > > > > > > > >The premise of the Thirteen Moon Calendar Change >Movement is that the > > >current Gregorian Calendar and the mechanical clock >constitue an artificial > > >timing frequency which is responsible for human alienation >from nature and > > >the creation of a thoroughly materialistic civilization >dominated by money > > >and machines > > According to Thirteen Moon Calendar Movement Messengers, >Jose and Lloydine > > Arguelles, " the calendar change is the only way to put the >brakes on the > > self-destructive course of present-day civilization. It is the only >way to > > stop the moral atrocities and environmental abuse that are >now being > > committed on behalf of the nationalism and economic >development. Not only is > > the Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar scientifically more regular >and accurate > > than the current twelve-month Gregorian Calendar, but its >implementation > > also represents a moment of prophetic truth for all of >humanity. " > > > > Given the current state of the world dominated by G-7 banking >interests and > > the unilateral assertion of technological and military control of >events > > including the performance of the UNPROFOR in the >Bosnia-Serbia Civil War, > > the conclusion must be drawn that the United Nations is >participating in the > > moral failure and incompetence of democracy that now >characterizes all of > > world civilization. The behavior of the United Nations with >regard to the > > Thirteen Moon Calendar Change Peace Plan and Roerich >Peace Pact > > demonstarates that the collective will of the human species is >bankrupt and > > hopelessly at odds with its own best interests and the order of >its natural > > environment. > > > > In order to avoid ultimate catastrophe and to provide a >legitemate basis for > > reestablishing a genuine nonviolent, non-militaristic peace on >this planet, > > the Thirteen Moon Autonomous Peoples' Committees invoke >the Roerich Peace > > Pact and Banner of Peace to promote and establish the new >time of thirteen > > moons 28 days and the biospheric covenant of Earth >Sovereignty to supersede > > the United Nations as it is now constituted. > > > > Description of collective state of mind: twisted, self-absorbed, >inhumane, > > intolerant, morbidly fascinated, self-insulated in a bubble >fortified by two > > powerful illusions: 1) world supremacy, and 2) money. > > > > Result: world supremacy of money creating state of >consciousness dominated > > by reflexes of self-defensive retrenchment incapable of >receiving any new > > ideas or information; hence, genuine dialogue is non-existent, >and should it > > occur, is treated as life-threatening. > > > > The main information media and forms of entertainment are >dominated by > > images of violence, and the maintenance of massive military >forces > > considered a major political asset. Hence the society is riddled >with > > gratuitous violence of all kinds and the growth of anarchic >vigilante or > > militia groups. The central television media news focus for one >year now has > > been the murder case and trial (21 weeks running) of a former >sports hero. > > Following suit, the murder trial of a popular entertainer will >soon be > > featured on the chief music-entertainment television channel. >Despite this > > media fixation, the society elders act puzzled at the amount of >violence and > > general decay characterizing American society. > > > > Within this self-insulated bubble of dense, unquestioning >ignorance, the > > idea of social or any other change appears to be unnecessary. >The relation > > of the USA to the rest of the planet socially, politically, >economically, > > and environmentally is dominated by a profound " I'm OK, don't >bother me, " > > isolationism. The oligarchy has deeply entrenched itself in >political power > > exemplified by the Republican 104th Congress. The mass >consciousness, > > including that of the poorest people, is characterized by >complacency, > > apathy, and fear punctuated by random violence. The issue of >job security is > > continuously used to maintain the lid on free expression. >Artistic genres > > are characterized by violence, sentimentality and chaos. >Rapidly engaged in > > the most accelerated forms of cybernetic technology, any real >continuity > > with the past has been erased. The only commemorative >events celebrated for > > purpose of maintaining the image of world supremacy are the >events > > concerning the end of the last World War, as well as >stock-in-trade > > patriotic holidays. > > > > Intolerance of death and financial loss are characterized by >massive medical > > technology to prolong life artificially and by financial stock >market which > > only sets new, record highs. The insurance industry and >burgeoning legal > > profession assure that the intolerance of death and accidents >of any kind > > will be both lucrative and life-complicating. > > > > This overall state of mind has become 'permanent' since the >end of the Cold > > War, 1990, which actually ended the dialectic of history. At this >point the > > balance of power shifted unequivocally to the Americans and >their powerful > > industrial allies, all together known as the G-7. The notion that >the > > direction in which the American mind has solidified itself is >totally at the > > expense of the biosphere and the well-being of the rest of the >planet is > > unheard of and unthinkable. It is also true that the American >state of mind > > has forfeited any genuine self reflection and, immersed in its >own form of > > hedonistic eternalism, is incapable of grasping in any critical >way its > > self-defeating course of violence and destruction. > > > > Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Never >before in the > > 5,000-year history of civilization has one people or nation >absolutely > > dominated the rest of the planet in its entirety as does the USA >today. Not > > Rome, not Hitler's Germany, manifest such absolute power >with so much abuse > > of the truth. American military supremacy and the philosophy of >military > > force as the chief principle of political mediation are at the >heart of > > world affairs. > > > > From the point of view of the American mind there is no >alternative > > whatsoever to the current state and course of affairs. Lacking >all > > perspective, the inert momentum of the American will must be >seen as a major > > contributing factor to the impending castrophe that will very >soon and > > inevitably engulf the entire planet: the collapse of the planetary > > biosphere. > > > > Recommendation: acts of divine intervention in the form of >natural disasters > > to break the belief system bubble and collapse the artificial >economic > > structure, while a critical mass 'underground' pursues >enlightened return to > > natural order through the World Thirteen Moon 28 Day >Calendar Change Peace > > Movement. > > > > It must be asked: What is it that will help the people and at the >same time > > help the Earth? > > > > The religion of truth and the religion of the Earth must be one: >people of > > the book reunited with the people of the dawn. This can only be >done by > > placing everyone in a new, common time that is in tune with >the cycles of > > nature and the Earth. This is the universal harmony >accomplished by the > > Thirteen Moon 28 day Calendar Change. > > > > The religion of truth is the religion of the Earth. Earth needs a >religion > > of truth that is not dogma, not money, not sect, and not anything >defined by > > boundaries, paper, or selfishness of any kind. Only truth will >satisfy the > > Earth. If asked: Of what religion are you? Answer: I am the >religion of the > > truth which is the religion of the Earth. > > > > The Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar Change is a fundamental >change. It is not > > a legislative change, but a change mandated by divine >authority that > > transcends and unifies all sects and creeds in a higher calling >of the > > Earth. > > > > Planetary service is the basis of the new time. Ask not what you >can do for > > yourself, your religion, or your country, but what you can do for >your > > planet. New groups of planetary servers are needed to >transcend dogmas of > > money, nationalism, and sectarianism of every kind. Who yet >understand the > > fundamentally spiritual nature and divine unity of all creation > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >http://messenger.msn.com > _______________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Were it so [that we love only ourselves], it would be splendid! Love your self wisely and you will reach the summit of perfection. Everybody loves his body, but few love their real being. Your real being is love itself, and your many loves are its reflections according to the situation at the moment. That which you are, your true self, you love it, and whatever you do, you do for your own happiness Om Shanti Shinkai > >Leo, don't get carried away. > >It is not El's forum. > >It's Hur's forum. > >Dedicated is Nisargadatta. > >El > > > >-------------- > >Ah ! and now I have a term of it.. its called sparking off >I thought everything was perfect and exactly as its meant to be.. >resistance versus allowance.. >Okay heres a Nisargatta quote > " Running after saints is merely another game to play " > >Leo > > > > > > > >Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > >Cowboy named Robere, > > > > > > > > > > > >I see you are still here. > > > > > > > >As I told Manuel, who used to have a great forum > > > >on " A Net Of Jewels " , > > > > > > > >when he asked me if he should ban certain folks from > > > >posting (by the way, Judi was not one of them), > > > > > > > >I said, 'NO'. > > > > > > > > " Your forum is OPEN TO ALL. That is what makes it great! " > > > > > > > > > > > >El > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The premise of the Thirteen Moon Calendar Change > >Movement is that the > > > >current Gregorian Calendar and the mechanical clock > >constitue an artificial > > > >timing frequency which is responsible for human alienation > >from nature and > > > >the creation of a thoroughly materialistic civilization > >dominated by money > > > >and machines > > > According to Thirteen Moon Calendar Movement Messengers, > >Jose and Lloydine > > > Arguelles, " the calendar change is the only way to put the > >brakes on the > > > self-destructive course of present-day civilization. It is the only > >way to > > > stop the moral atrocities and environmental abuse that are > >now being > > > committed on behalf of the nationalism and economic > >development. Not only is > > > the Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar scientifically more regular > >and accurate > > > than the current twelve-month Gregorian Calendar, but its > >implementation > > > also represents a moment of prophetic truth for all of > >humanity. " > > > > > > Given the current state of the world dominated by G-7 banking > >interests and > > > the unilateral assertion of technological and military control of > >events > > > including the performance of the UNPROFOR in the > >Bosnia-Serbia Civil War, > > > the conclusion must be drawn that the United Nations is > >participating in the > > > moral failure and incompetence of democracy that now > >characterizes all of > > > world civilization. The behavior of the United Nations with > >regard to the > > > Thirteen Moon Calendar Change Peace Plan and Roerich > >Peace Pact > > > demonstarates that the collective will of the human species is > >bankrupt and > > > hopelessly at odds with its own best interests and the order of > >its natural > > > environment. > > > > > > In order to avoid ultimate catastrophe and to provide a > >legitemate basis for > > > reestablishing a genuine nonviolent, non-militaristic peace on > >this planet, > > > the Thirteen Moon Autonomous Peoples' Committees invoke > >the Roerich Peace > > > Pact and Banner of Peace to promote and establish the new > >time of thirteen > > > moons 28 days and the biospheric covenant of Earth > >Sovereignty to supersede > > > the United Nations as it is now constituted. > > > > > > Description of collective state of mind: twisted, self-absorbed, > >inhumane, > > > intolerant, morbidly fascinated, self-insulated in a bubble > >fortified by two > > > powerful illusions: 1) world supremacy, and 2) money. > > > > > > Result: world supremacy of money creating state of > >consciousness dominated > > > by reflexes of self-defensive retrenchment incapable of > >receiving any new > > > ideas or information; hence, genuine dialogue is non-existent, > >and should it > > > occur, is treated as life-threatening. > > > > > > The main information media and forms of entertainment are > >dominated by > > > images of violence, and the maintenance of massive military > >forces > > > considered a major political asset. Hence the society is riddled > >with > > > gratuitous violence of all kinds and the growth of anarchic > >vigilante or > > > militia groups. The central television media news focus for one > >year now has > > > been the murder case and trial (21 weeks running) of a former > >sports hero. > > > Following suit, the murder trial of a popular entertainer will > >soon be > > > featured on the chief music-entertainment television channel. > >Despite this > > > media fixation, the society elders act puzzled at the amount of > >violence and > > > general decay characterizing American society. > > > > > > Within this self-insulated bubble of dense, unquestioning > >ignorance, the > > > idea of social or any other change appears to be unnecessary. > >The relation > > > of the USA to the rest of the planet socially, politically, > >economically, > > > and environmentally is dominated by a profound " I'm OK, don't > >bother me, " > > > isolationism. The oligarchy has deeply entrenched itself in > >political power > > > exemplified by the Republican 104th Congress. The mass > >consciousness, > > > including that of the poorest people, is characterized by > >complacency, > > > apathy, and fear punctuated by random violence. The issue of > >job security is > > > continuously used to maintain the lid on free expression. > >Artistic genres > > > are characterized by violence, sentimentality and chaos. > >Rapidly engaged in > > > the most accelerated forms of cybernetic technology, any real > >continuity > > > with the past has been erased. The only commemorative > >events celebrated for > > > purpose of maintaining the image of world supremacy are the > >events > > > concerning the end of the last World War, as well as > >stock-in-trade > > > patriotic holidays. > > > > > > Intolerance of death and financial loss are characterized by > >massive medical > > > technology to prolong life artificially and by financial stock > >market which > > > only sets new, record highs. The insurance industry and > >burgeoning legal > > > profession assure that the intolerance of death and accidents > >of any kind > > > will be both lucrative and life-complicating. > > > > > > This overall state of mind has become 'permanent' since the > >end of the Cold > > > War, 1990, which actually ended the dialectic of history. At this > >point the > > > balance of power shifted unequivocally to the Americans and > >their powerful > > > industrial allies, all together known as the G-7. The notion that > >the > > > direction in which the American mind has solidified itself is > >totally at the > > > expense of the biosphere and the well-being of the rest of the > >planet is > > > unheard of and unthinkable. It is also true that the American > >state of mind > > > has forfeited any genuine self reflection and, immersed in its > >own form of > > > hedonistic eternalism, is incapable of grasping in any critical > >way its > > > self-defeating course of violence and destruction. > > > > > > Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Never > >before in the > > > 5,000-year history of civilization has one people or nation > >absolutely > > > dominated the rest of the planet in its entirety as does the USA > >today. Not > > > Rome, not Hitler's Germany, manifest such absolute power > >with so much abuse > > > of the truth. American military supremacy and the philosophy of > >military > > > force as the chief principle of political mediation are at the > >heart of > > > world affairs. > > > > > > From the point of view of the American mind there is no > >alternative > > > whatsoever to the current state and course of affairs. Lacking > >all > > > perspective, the inert momentum of the American will must be > >seen as a major > > > contributing factor to the impending castrophe that will very > >soon and > > > inevitably engulf the entire planet: the collapse of the planetary > > > biosphere. > > > > > > Recommendation: acts of divine intervention in the form of > >natural disasters > > > to break the belief system bubble and collapse the artificial > >economic > > > structure, while a critical mass 'underground' pursues > >enlightened return to > > > natural order through the World Thirteen Moon 28 Day > >Calendar Change Peace > > > Movement. > > > > > > It must be asked: What is it that will help the people and at the > >same time > > > help the Earth? > > > > > > The religion of truth and the religion of the Earth must be one: > >people of > > > the book reunited with the people of the dawn. This can only be > >done by > > > placing everyone in a new, common time that is in tune with > >the cycles of > > > nature and the Earth. This is the universal harmony > >accomplished by the > > > Thirteen Moon 28 day Calendar Change. > > > > > > The religion of truth is the religion of the Earth. Earth needs a > >religion > > > of truth that is not dogma, not money, not sect, and not anything > >defined by > > > boundaries, paper, or selfishness of any kind. Only truth will > >satisfy the > > > Earth. If asked: Of what religion are you? Answer: I am the > >religion of the > > > truth which is the religion of the Earth. > > > > > > The Thirteen Moon 28-Day Calendar Change is a fundamental > >change. It is not > > > a legislative change, but a change mandated by divine > >authority that > > > transcends and unifies all sects and creeds in a higher calling > >of the > > > Earth. > > > > > > Planetary service is the basis of the new time. Ask not what you > >can do for > > > yourself, your religion, or your country, but what you can do for > >your > > > planet. New groups of planetary servers are needed to > >transcend dogmas of > > > money, nationalism, and sectarianism of every kind. Who yet > >understand the > > > fundamentally spiritual nature and divine unity of all creation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > >http://messenger.msn.com > > > > >_______________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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