a gentle reminder? :)

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If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. The

precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual self has

been annihilated. No personal self or individual phenomenon has ever been

enlightened. The person disappears along with all other phenomena when he

awakens from this dream of existence.

 

 

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Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote:

> If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not.

The precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual

self has been annihilated. No personal self or individual phenomenon

has ever been enlightened. The person disappears along with all

other phenomena when he awakens from this dream of existence.

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what makes 'you' so certain of this? sounds like dogma, leo.

spiritual kaka...no offense intended.

 

nisargadatta, did he disappear? shit, he kept on selling those nasty

little cigarettes and holding satsangs and singing praises of his

guru.

 

no, the attachement to 'being a somebody' is what goes. not the

somebody itself. the body mind organism remains. the play continues.

attachement to the play is dropped and the natural state of joy

appears.

 

before enlightenment - up to the eyeballs in debt and miserable.

after enlightenment - up to the eyeballs in debt and so what of it?

 

the individual self is annihilated by whom? the character? the big

self?

 

did nisargadatta say I Am That or did he say something other is That?

 

as buddha said - there are no enlightened beings, there are no end of

enlightened beings.

 

when IT happens IT is known.

 

enjoy life - michael

 

ps you are That, whether 'you' know it or not! hah!