Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, " mareadba " <maread@t...> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. > The precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual > self has been annihilated. No personal self or individual phenomenon > has ever been enlightened. The person disappears along with all > other phenomena when he awakens from this dream of existence. > > then nisragadatta wasn't enlightened? sheesh! and buddha wasn't awake and jesus wasn't one with his dad and ramana was just deluded well, just wait until IT happens for you kiddo. then we'll see what you have to say. fuggitaboutit - michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Dear Michael Not wanting to split hairs or even engage in " personal " or " individual " conflict. One can take a horse to water but one cannot make it drink Your interpretation remains yours - individual and personal.. Other than that I could not go on to explain any more... Namaste Nisargadatta, " mareadba " <maread@t...> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " mareadba " <maread@t...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > > If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. > > The precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual > > self has been annihilated. No personal self or individual > phenomenon > > has ever been enlightened. The person disappears along with all > > other phenomena when he awakens from this dream of existence. > > > > > then nisragadatta wasn't enlightened? > sheesh! > and buddha wasn't awake > and jesus wasn't one with his dad > and ramana was just deluded > > well, just wait until IT happens for you kiddo. > then we'll see what you have to say. > > fuggitaboutit - michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 The text is plain and clear Michael. Understanding the text of course is the major hurdle Go well > >Nisargadatta, " mareadba " <maread@t...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > > If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. > > The precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual > > self has been annihilated. No personal self or individual >phenomenon > > has ever been enlightened. The person disappears along with all > > other phenomena when he awakens from this dream of existence. > > > > >then nisragadatta wasn't enlightened? >sheesh! >and buddha wasn't awake >and jesus wasn't one with his dad >and ramana was just deluded > >well, just wait until IT happens for you kiddo. >then we'll see what you have to say. > >fuggitaboutit - michael > _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Nisargadatta, " Leo King " <leo_king111@h...> wrote: > > The text is plain and clear Michael. Understanding the text of course is > the major hurdle > > Go well > yeah, right, leo. you didn't answer the question though, did you? if no one can say they are That (awake, enlightened, etc.), then, was Nisargadatta That - or was he just another pretender - another deluded body/mind thingy? lol oh, the text is easily understood, after awakening happens. before that it is only dogma. so here you go and have fun with it - i (michael read) am THAT yup, fer sure. but it is no big deal - not at all. why? because everybody and everything is THAT even you, kiddo. at play in the fields of eternity - michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Hi Michael.. Hmmm okay perhaps only digest half of the phrase.. If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. Theprecondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual self hasbeen annihilated. Does that help? Don't get haung up on it.. > Go well> yeah, right, leo.you didn't answer the question though, did you?if no one can say they are That (awake, enlightened, etc.),then, was Nisargadatta That - or was he just anotherpretender - another deluded body/mind thingy? loloh, the text is easily understood, after awakening happens.before that it is only dogma.so here you go and have fun with it -i (michael read) am THATyup, fer sure.but it is no big deal - not at all.why?because everybody and everything is THATeven you, kiddo.at play in the fields of eternity - michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Nisargadatta, elf <elfinstein2000> wrote: > > Hi Michael.. > > Hmmm okay perhaps only digest half of the phrase.. > > If any individual considers himself enlightened, then he is not. The > precondition of enlightenment is that the identified individual self has > been annihilated. > > Does that help? > > don't kneed youar haulp! :-) lol - michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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