Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 know any good teachers? --- hafizullah wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> I only know one real Christian mystic personally --- Brother David Steindl-Rast --- and he has a teacher. & nbsp; The need for a living teacher is definitely a Buddhist teaching, at least among the Tibetan Buddhists I am aware of... in fact, the & quot;root guru & quot; is a big part of that teaching.<BR> <BR> That is not to say that the ultimate locus of authority is outside of oneself. & nbsp; However, practical experience and empirical observation over many years (I've been at this now for 30 or so) shows that people who don't have a living teacher, in whatever tradition or lineage they feel most comfortable, just don't change much. & nbsp; If & quot;life as teacher & quot; were sufficient, there'd be a lot more enlightened beings on earth and it would be a very different place. & nbsp; The underlying reality of the soul's inherent wisdom is unquestionable, but much of the task of the spiritual path is of removing the veils between our subjective identity and the inner reality. & nbsp; The teacher is merely one who helps you stay on track, just as one occasionally needs help interpreting a map when traveling in a foreign country. & nbsp; You may need that help a lot or only a little --- but when you need it, you really need it.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Hafizullah<BR> @}- & gt;---<BR> <BR> <BR> & nbsp; <BR> & nbsp; ghornsby [ghornsby]<BR> & nbsp; Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:32 p<BR> & nbsp; SufiMystic <BR> & nbsp; [sufiMystic] re: The need for a teacher..<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> & nbsp; At 08:58 PM 5/29/02 -0400, Hafizullah wrote:<BR> & nbsp; & gt;Au contraire, Mon Cher. & nbsp; What I said excludes none of the things you<BR> & nbsp; & gt;list. & nbsp; & nbsp; None whatever.<BR> & nbsp; & gt;<BR> & nbsp; & gt;I have no idea how you get to where you got from where I started. & nbsp; Please<BR> & nbsp; & gt;amplify, if you will.<BR> <BR> <BR> & nbsp; Ah..mon cher & nbsp; :-)<BR> <BR> & nbsp; I read between the lines..<BR> & nbsp; LOL<BR> <BR> & nbsp; No teacher------ & gt;No progress..<BR> & nbsp; Mmmm..let's see..<BR> & nbsp; Is this a Christian teaching? & nbsp; No<BR> & nbsp; A Buddhist teaching? No<BR> & nbsp; Going down the list..<BR> & nbsp; No<BR> & nbsp; No<BR> & nbsp; No<BR> & nbsp; No<BR> <BR> & nbsp; Is this a Sufi teaching? Most definitely<BR> <BR> & nbsp; Simple deduction:<BR> & nbsp; If you don't have a teacher, you're stuck..<BR> & nbsp; Pity the poor soul..!<BR> <BR> & nbsp; That's not what you meant?<BR> & nbsp; Well..shucks..<BR> & nbsp; Coulda fooled me..<BR> & nbsp; :-)<BR> <BR> & nbsp; Ta chère<BR> & nbsp; Germaine :-)<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> & nbsp; Unsub: SufiMystic- <BR> & nbsp; Home: <a href= " SufiMystic/ " >S\ ufiMystic/</a><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> & nbsp; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart wrote: <know any good teachers? Oh yes, her name is Ariel.She's perfectly realized though she may not know it.:-) Namaste, ----- Anand. ______________________ Everything you always wanted to know about cars and bikes,now at: http://in.autos./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 his name is ariel thankyou although on the web its all a bit neutral love to you --- Anand Eswaran <anandesw wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> <BR> <BR> --- ariel cathcart & lt;arielcathcart & gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> & lt;know any good teachers?<BR> <BR> <BR> Oh yes, her name is Ariel.She's perfectly realized<BR> though she may not know it.:-) <BR> <BR> Namaste,<BR> -----<BR> Anand. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> Everything you always wanted to know about cars and bikes,now<BR> at: <a href= " http://in.autos./cricket/tracker.html " >http://in.autos./\ cricket/tracker.html</a><BR> </tt> <br> <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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