Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 Message 4566 " i think using the words i am as a mantra can point to " the sense of being that he talks about as it tends to " dissconect the mind from the train of thoughts that " are there and they just seemed to connect withmy in " out breath --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart> ------------ Ariel, rather than over taxing 'your little self' with perceived pissing-contests of 'others', why don't you see if you can find that ~~~~~~sense of being~~~~~~ Maharaj talks about. First things first! El .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells2002 " <el_wells2002> wrote: > > > Message 4566 > " i think using the words i am as a mantra can point to > " the sense of being that he talks about as it tends to > " dissconect the mind from the train of thoughts that > " are there and they just seemed to connect withmy in > " out breath --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart> > > > ------------ > Ariel, rather than over taxing 'your little self' with > perceived pissing-contests of 'others', > > why don't you see if you can find that > ~~~~~~sense of being~~~~~~ > Maharaj talks about. > > First things first! > > El > > > . Indeed, El -- What is first is, before any words are ... So what is having words to repeat going to do with regards to " that " ? What is first has no preceding step. So, how is taking a step, such as repeating a word in order to get somewhere, going to reveal what is first? It can only give what is second, that is, whatever follows the step you are taking ... -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 At 09:02 AM 6/7/2002, you wrote: Nisargadatta, " el_wells2002 " <el_wells2002> wrote: > > > Message 4566 > " i think using the words i am as a mantra can point to > " the sense of being that he talks about as it tends to > " dissconect the mind from the train of thoughts that > " are there and they just seemed to connect withmy in > " out breath --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart> > > > ------------ > Ariel, rather than over taxing 'your little self' with > perceived pissing-contests of 'others', > > why don't you see if you can find that > ~~~~~~sense of being~~~~~~ > Maharaj talks about. > > First things first! > > El > > > . Indeed, El -- What is first is, before any words are ... So what is having words to repeat going to do with regards to " that " ? What is first has no preceding step. So, how is taking a step, such as repeating a word in order to get somewhere, going to reveal what is first? It can only give what is second, that is, whatever follows the step you are taking ... -- Dan Dan: For sure! There is stepping. There is no one stepping. :-) Michael --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release 5/29/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 thanks for the advice for what its worth the i am as a words appear in my mind like other words alyhough not to many other words appear except if theres conflict or fear but my lifestyle is pretty quiet and its easier for me to watch those words than a stream of words like what am i doing tomorow or have i enough money in the bank or what does he think about me ? the usual stuff it still comes up but i li ke the i am better ,also nisargadatta said in i am that its like a candle the mantra is the flame you are the candle any comments appreciated ariel --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Nisargadatta, & quot;el_wells2002 & quot; & lt;el_wells2002 & gt; wrote:<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; & nbsp; Message 4566<BR> & gt; & quot;i think using the words i am as a mantra can point to<BR> & gt; & quot;the sense of being that he talks about as it tends to<BR> & gt; & quot;dissconect the mind from the train of thoughts that<BR> & gt; & quot;are there and they just seemed to connect withmy in<BR> & gt; & quot;out breath --- ariel cathcart & lt;arielcathcart & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; ------------<BR> & gt; Ariel, rather than over taxing 'your little self' with<BR> & gt; perceived pissing-contests of 'others',<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; why don't you see if you can find that <BR> & gt; ~~~~~~sense of being~~~~~~<BR> & gt; Maharaj talks about. & nbsp; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; First things first!<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; El<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; .<BR> <BR> Indeed, El --<BR> <BR> What is first is, before<BR> & nbsp; any words are ...<BR> <BR> So what is having words<BR> & nbsp; to repeat going to do<BR> & nbsp; with regards to & quot;that & quot; ?<BR> <BR> What is first has no preceding <BR> & nbsp; step.<BR> <BR> So, how is taking a step,<BR> such as repeating a word<BR> in order to get somewhere,<BR> going to reveal what is first?<BR> <BR> It can only give what is second,<BR> & nbsp; that is, whatever follows<BR> & nbsp; the step you are taking ...<BR> <BR> -- Dan<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 hi me again i was just looking at ramanas who am i onthe download and there it was in my face he says the thought who am i will destroy all other thoughts thats what i figure wi th the thought i am i also use who am i to question the thought i am occasionally--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Nisargadatta, & quot;el_wells2002 & quot; & lt;el_wells2002 & gt; wrote:<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; & nbsp; Message 4566<BR> & gt; & quot;i think using the words i am as a mantra can point to<BR> & gt; & quot;the sense of being that he talks about as it tends to<BR> & gt; & quot;dissconect the mind from the train of thoughts that<BR> & gt; & quot;are there and they just seemed to connect withmy in<BR> & gt; & quot;out breath --- ariel cathcart & lt;arielcathcart & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; ------------<BR> & gt; Ariel, rather than over taxing 'your little self' with<BR> & gt; perceived pissing-contests of 'others',<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; why don't you see if you can find that <BR> & gt; ~~~~~~sense of being~~~~~~<BR> & gt; Maharaj talks about. & nbsp; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; First things first!<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; El<BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; <BR> & gt; .<BR> <BR> Indeed, El --<BR> <BR> What is first is, before<BR> & nbsp; any words are ...<BR> <BR> So what is having words<BR> & nbsp; to repeat going to do<BR> & nbsp; with regards to & quot;that & quot; ?<BR> <BR> What is first has no preceding <BR> & nbsp; step.<BR> <BR> So, how is taking a step,<BR> such as repeating a word<BR> in order to get somewhere,<BR> going to reveal what is first?<BR> <BR> It can only give what is second,<BR> & nbsp; that is, whatever follows<BR> & nbsp; the step you are taking ...<BR> <BR> -- Dan<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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