Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 hi, the books of Nisargadatta is hard for me to read, I'm saturated with spiritual literature and developed an aversion to it, plus the question and answer format is not my rhrytm not my questions etc Is there a website or club with exerpts about the Prior to Consciousness, please let me know. The " I am " webpage among the files here is great. --Is it possible that one doesn't do any " exercise " just remains centered in his/her essence, I took clearllight acid 20 years ago and all this seems to be known realised, familiar to me, remembering that awareness gained (and forgotten) during the acid-trip? Does non-dualist view CONSCIOUSNESS as - a pool where one tunes in and shares the similarities with others where has affinity? - is it preordaned like karma? - can it be uplifted or only known as is? - a tool - the maifestation of being (or the other-way around) I really really like the here and now thought eg.: " .. the self-enquiry my ongoing process of discovering Reality. The Reality is not outside of me -- is eternal, in the Present, everlasting, nondying. " -are nondualist aiming to " stop the rebirth " by eliminating the 'seed " the form for not " to come back " . I don't belive in reincarnation... -thank you for your time in advance k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 you say that you're saturated with spiritual literature and developed an aversion to it but you're seeking more text on white background? perhaps a paper book? how about david godman's book on ramana maharshi called " be as you are " ...it's an excellent book for all levels. here is a link that gives you an idea what the book cover looks like but don't just look for it in electronic form on the net since this is one book that should be read in paper. it has its own nondual magic. http://www.realization.org/page/books/be_as_you_are.htm after this book, perhaps " i am that " can be the next level. as to your questions, no one has any answers but you. based on our ability we create our own myths to console ourselves. remember only the ego has questions and needs to be counseled of its own approaching end. since you have dislike for wordsmiths' version of myths, how about a nondual poetic myth? no wonder you don't remember being the almighty Universal Consciousness, nor having the memory of where you were 200 years ago, nor being born. did the the dreams of this world veil it as the moving images hide the screen? have you been born through so many forms, and not all the programming been wiped from the memories? just because you have not yet been reminded you are That and live in the past, it does not mean your heart might peek some day from the opening of this mystery and see this with wide open eyes hur P.S. the above poem is my translation of rumi's sufi poetic myth to a modern advaita myth. Nisargadatta, " satkartar5 " <mi_nok> wrote: > hi, the books of Nisargadatta is hard for me to read, I'm saturated with spiritual literature and developed an aversion to it, plus the question and answer format is not my rhrytm not my questions etc > > Is there a website or club with exerpts about the Prior to Consciousness, please let me know. The " I am " webpage among the files here is great. --Is it possible that one doesn't do any " exercise " just remains centered in his/her essence, I took clearllight acid 20 years ago and all this seems to be known realised, familiar to me, remembering that awareness gained (and forgotten) during the acid- trip? > > Does non-dualist view CONSCIOUSNESS as > - a pool where one tunes in and shares the similarities with others where has affinity? > > - is it preordaned like karma? > > - can it be uplifted or only known as is? > > - a tool > > - the maifestation of being (or the other-way around) > > I really really like the here and now thought eg.: > " .. the self-enquiry my ongoing process of discovering Reality. The Reality is not outside of me -- is eternal, in the Present, everlasting, nondying. " > > -are nondualist aiming to " stop the rebirth " by eliminating the 'seed " the form for not " to come back " . I don't belive in reincarnation... > > -thank you for your time in advance > > k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 hi Hurg, I know you for a long time since I'm an admirer of Kabir and the sufi poets and saw your website. The reason I commented about the Nisargadatta file being great is because it collected the main thoughts of him in an easy to navigate format (and I saw bad selections). My mind screams when I try to read his book the I'm, or while reading question and answer format (you saw; I've my specific questions through which I'm able to grasp a teaching) --sorry to say it is not possible for me to read a book at this point because I speed read especially repetitious literature and there is no way of me knowing where was the coupe lines of importance. I belive in PRACTICE versus reading anyway and I'am used to meditate 18 + hours/day. I assumed, that here I'll find advanced kind souls who are learned in Nisargadatta's thought and can tell me how to do the teaching. k Nisargadatta, " hurg " <hurg> wrote: > you say that you're saturated with spiritual literature and developed > an aversion to it but you're seeking more text on white background? > perhaps a paper book? how about david godman's book on ramana > maharshi called " be as you are " ...it's an excellent book for all > levels. here is a link that gives you an idea what the book cover > looks like but don't just look for it in electronic form on the net > since this is one book that should be read in paper. it has its own > nondual magic. > > http://www.realization.org/page/books/be_as_you_are.htm > > after this book, perhaps " i am that " can be the next level. > > as to your questions, no one has any answers but you. based on our > ability we create our own myths to console ourselves. remember only > the ego has questions and needs to be counseled of its own > approaching end. since you have dislike for wordsmiths' version of > myths, how about a nondual poetic myth? > > no wonder you don't remember being the almighty Universal > Consciousness, > nor having the memory of where you were 200 years ago, > nor being born. > did the the dreams of this world veil it as the moving images hide > the screen? > have you been born through so many forms, > and not all the programming been wiped from the memories? > just because you have not yet been reminded you are That > and live in the past, > it does not mean your heart might peek some day from the opening of > this mystery > and see this with wide open eyes > > hur > > > P.S. the above poem is my translation of rumi's sufi poetic myth to a > modern advaita myth. > > > Nisargadatta, " satkartar5 " <mi_nok> wrote: > > hi, the books of Nisargadatta is hard for me to read, I'm saturated > with spiritual literature and developed an aversion to it, plus the > question and answer format is not my rhrytm not my questions etc > > > > Is there a website or club with exerpts about the Prior to > Consciousness, please let me know. The " I am " webpage among the files > here is great. --Is it possible that one doesn't do any " exercise " > just remains centered in his/her essence, I took clearllight acid 20 > years ago and all this seems to be known realised, familiar to me, > remembering that awareness gained (and forgotten) during the acid- > trip? > > > > Does non-dualist view CONSCIOUSNESS as > > - a pool where one tunes in and shares the similarities with others > where has affinity? > > > > - is it preordaned like karma? > > > > - can it be uplifted or only known as is? > > > > - a tool > > > > - the maifestation of being (or the other-way around) > > > > I really really like the here and now thought eg.: > > " .. the self-enquiry my ongoing process of discovering Reality. > The Reality is not outside of me -- is eternal, in the Present, > everlasting, nondying. " > > > > -are nondualist aiming to " stop the rebirth " by eliminating > the 'seed " the form for not " to come back " . I don't belive in > reincarnation... > > > > -thank you for your time in advance > > > > k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Don't associate with the questions and you will require no answers -------- Namaste, Anand. --- satkartar5 <mi_nok wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> hi, the books of Nisargadatta is hard for me to read, I'm saturated with spiritual literature and developed an aversion to it, plus the question and answer format is not my rhrytm not my questions etc<BR> <BR> Is there a website or club with exerpts about the Prior to Consciousness, please let me know. The & quot;I am & quot; webpage among the files here is great. --Is it possible that one doesn't do any & quot;exercise & quot; just remains centered in his/her essence, I took clearllight acid 20 years ago and all this seems to be known realised, familiar to me, remembering that awareness gained (and forgotten) during the acid-trip? <BR> <BR> Does non-dualist view CONSCIOUSNESS as <BR> - a pool where one tunes in and shares the similarities with others where has affinity?<BR> <BR> - is it preordaned like karma? <BR> <BR> - can it be uplifted or only known as is? <BR> <BR> - a tool<BR> <BR> - the maifestation of being (or the other-way around)<BR> <BR> I really really like the here and now thought eg.:<BR> & quot;.. the self-enquiry my ongoing process of discovering Reality. The Reality is not outside of me -- is eternal, in the Present, everlasting, nondying. & quot; <BR> <BR> -are nondualist aiming to & quot;stop the rebirth & quot; by eliminating the 'seed & quot; the form for not & quot;to come back & quot;. I don't belive in reincarnation...<BR> <BR> -thank you for your time in advance<BR> <BR> k<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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