what to do when emotions arises/ body hurts ?!?

July 28, 2002

Aloha!Thanks very much to Hurg and Rk Shankar for your replies!I am contemplating about your messages!

Shankar: You said:"...one must keep at this, until all impressions are dissolved."

Have you actually reached this point? Are you enlightened? Is anyone here enlightened?and funny question of the day:" Does it feel good to be enlightened...?"

What should I do when my body hurts? (Since January 2000, I suffer from CFS. (Chronique Fatigue Syndrome))Sometimes the pain is just overwhelming. For example, I meditate on 'feeling being' and suddenly my eyes hurt like hell.

I often begin to ask myself: What should I do now? Should I Focus on the pain in my eyes, or concentrating on

my thoughts saying:"Gez, that hurts."

Or trying to 'become' the pain? Or even focusing on my feet (sometimes as I focus on a body-part that does not hurt, the

pain at another spot subsides, or I just forget about it.)

And what to do about emotions. I have come to a point nowadays, where I seem to be able to be without any thoughts

for about 10 min., but I certainly feel EMOTIONS during that time. For example I feel boredom very fast coming during medidation. (Is it a feeling at all, or do judge within seconds, with a thought, "this is boring" which actually then triggers the emotion boredom?!?)So, how to deal with emotions? Are they different from thought? Or like Yin and Yang?Thanks for listenting!fox

aloha from Switzerland

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"rkshankar" <rkshankar

Friday, July 26, 2002 5:58 PM

Both feeling-being and muttering 'I am' works

> Dear Fox> > Attention on the 'I am feeling-being' works.> When the attention lapses, even repeating mentally the words "I am" works.> But, only one must keep at this, until all impressions are dissolved.> Only one must do this incessantly tirelessly and happily, as Bhagawan Sri> Ramana> says. Stealing time from daily life, one must do this with faith and> persistence.> > Like for example, I drop my daughter at her dance class in my motor bike.> The dance class is for one hour. In that gap, I try to practice> Self-Enquiry> seating myself comfortably on the bench outside of the dance teacher's home.> And so on, whenever there is a gap in one's daily life.> > A You may also find the following translation from Tamil of the> ''very essence of the core of self-enquiry practice' useful.> > B That you can mutter the words 'I am' is confirmed by Papadam Song> of Bhagawan Sri Ramana translated from Tamil and given below.> > Thanks and kind regards> RK Shankar> > A Essence of Spiritual Effort by Saint Sri Sadhu Aum, a monk disciple of> Bhagawan Sri Ramana> Later Writing - 1 - Spiritual Effort and Profession - Lines 4 - 19 of> Page> 219> > 1 After sitting (down) for (practising) 'self-attention',> turning the 'attentive power' on our 'existence-consciousness',> it is enough to make it stay there only for 1-2 minutes.> > 2 Then, when it (the attentive power), slips away from> 'self-attention',> after staying for a while, after relaxing the 'effort' we can just be> (without doing anything), (either with or without closing the eyes).> > 3 Once again, after 1 minute, again we can give a 'turn' to the> attentive> power on 'self-attention'.> Now, the mind will engage itself for 1-2 minutes in 'self-attention',> with a bit of enthusiasm.> > 4 Then, stopping the 'effort' for 1 minute and relaxing, again focus on> 'self-attention'.> By the self-attention that is thus attempted after intervals,> it becomes conducive for each effort to get freshness and a new> strength.> > B. Paragraph 5 of Papadam Song by Bhagawan Sri Ramana> > Incessantly pounding upon the stone-mind, unwaveringly with the inwardly> facing (iron) pestle as 'I-I',> with weariness continually ceasing, (and) with abiding happiness,> with the (wooden or stainless steel) rolling pin of calmness, on the> (wooden) board of equanimity,> > try rolling the (Black Gram Flour into) Papadam (,frying, then serving> the Papadam on a plate, and) -> eating that (Papadam), exhaust your desire (for the things of the> world).> > > "fox" <www955> > how to do "I AM" ???> > Nisarga always stresses the importance of "I am"> >1 Do I have to repeat the words 'I am' constantly like a mantra?> > 2 focus on "FEELING BEING") ???> > > > > > > > >