Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Gentlemen! We were recently discussing this issue. I have noticed that when somethings happen which is very unpleasant, I begin to SUPPRESS my bad feelings, and begin to think excessively. This leads to at least a temporary relief! - Of course the problem is that I totally forget what the original cause was (horrible feelings) and I GET LOST in thought. When I then try to not think, it will be so extremely difficult, because as soon as I stop thinking, THE ORIGINAL BAD FEELINGS REAPPEAR, which I didn't want to feel in the first place...! *** Shankar, you said: " When you feel pain, that is the time for you to stop meditating. And then, you must go to sleep " --- Are you really sure about that?!?! -------------- thanks and regards to everybody, by the way, shoulnd't we recall this group: Advaita-Group or Non- Duality-Group etc?!?! How about set up a real discussion forum?! (for example ezboard.com) ---------------- fox www.feel.ch ------------------------ -------------- ------ - - ---------- Urspruengliche Nachricht ------------------------------- --- Von: " dan330033 " <dan330033 Antworten: Nisargadatta Datum: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:53:23 -0000 >That's why I said, > " what you do is, > you hurt like hell. " > >However, there are limits > to pain. > >At a certain point, one > will lose consciousness > or die. > >Rather than contemplation, > in the sense of intellectual > considerations of thought, > pain directs one to contemplation > as directly being aware of/as " what is. " > >That " one cannot help it, " that > " one has no choice about the matter " -- > those are key insights, although > they don't make pain enjoyable. > >Truth doesn't eliminate pain from life. > >Pain is as necessary to life as is pleasure. > > " That " which is beyond pain or pleasure, > is that which is, simultaneously with > experiencing pain or pleasure, yet has not gone > away when the body goes unconscious > or dies (as " this " is not-a-thing). > >-- Dan > >Nisargadatta, " satkartar5 " <mi_nok> wrote: >> I don't think any of you experienced continued pain; I've -it just >leaves no room for contemplation... >> >> ~k~ >> >> Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " >> <dan330033> wrote: >> > Fox -- >> > >> > What you do is, >> > you hurt like hell. >> > >> > Separating things like " me " " my body " >> > " the hurt " and " the world in which >> > the body and the hurt appear " >> > is the illusion. >> > >> > The illusion is that anything arises >> > that in any way has a separate >> > entitihood to it. >> > >> > If anyone supposes that " nothing " means >> > that one's present experience dissappears, >> > that is nonsense, also known as nihilism. >> > >> > " Nothing " is, at best, a pointer to >> > " what is " when conceptual separations >> > don't apply. >> > >> > Nothing and something aren't opposed. >> > >> > -- Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 - feel Nisargadatta Monday, August 05, 2002 2:55 AM pain triggers thought Gentlemen! We were recently discussing this issue. I have noticed that when somethings happen which is very unpleasant, I begin to SUPPRESS my bad feelings, and begin to think excessively. This leads to at least a temporary relief! - Of course the problem is that I totally forget what the original cause was (horrible feelings) and I GET LOST in thought. When I then try to not think, it will be so extremely difficult, because as soon as I stop thinking, THE ORIGINAL BAD FEELINGS REAPPEAR, which I didn't want to feel in the first place...! *** *** Rev. Helen Hiwater, D.D. - Straighten up and bow down! There's noooo way around it! The way is *through*, not around. Happy Days,Judi http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htmTheEndOfTheRopeRanch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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