Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I love Swami Häagen-Dazs' argument: all we can know is ice cream, ice cream is all there is. If there was something beyond and better than ice cream we could never know it because we could not be taste it. Cones, chairs, the shop, etc. are ONLY beliefs. " Tasting ice cream " is simply another name for experience. All we know is what we experience. Knowing is simply tasting ice cream. Delusion is " non-ice cream " concepts, the ice cream depraved mind, the feeling and false belief that we can know more than the ice cream flavored world. I use the above argument with the non-believers in the ice cream reality, saying that ice cream is self-evident, what is in doubt is the existence of the ice cream shop. hur ps. this post is actually a comedic rendition on a hindu related traditional advaita vedanta argument. mostly what i did is simply switched the word " consciousness " with ice cream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 i once had a experience with a capsicum,i was witha group of people cooking dinner ,holding a capsicum ,the capsicum at that moment became so precious for me ,for it to be included in the meal,i think i had tears in my eyes,i cant really explain it ,it was likethe whole world and more at that time,i wonder if enlightenment is like that but constantly ariel --- hurg <hurg wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> I love Swami Häagen-Dazs' argument: all we can know is ice cream, ice <BR> cream is all there is. If there was something beyond and better than <BR> ice cream we could never know it because we could not be taste it. <BR> Cones, chairs, the shop, etc. are ONLY beliefs. & quot;Tasting ice cream & quot; <BR> is simply another name for experience. All we know is what we <BR> experience. Knowing is simply tasting ice cream. Delusion is & quot;non-ice <BR> cream & quot; concepts, the ice cream depraved mind, the feeling and false <BR> belief that we can know more than the ice cream flavored world.<BR> <BR> I use the above argument with the non-believers in the ice cream <BR> reality, saying that ice cream is self-evident, what is in doubt is <BR> the existence of the ice cream shop. <BR> <BR> hur<BR> <BR> ps. this post is actually a comedic rendition on a hindu related <BR> traditional advaita vedanta argument. & nbsp; mostly what i did is simply <BR> switched the word & quot;consciousness & quot; with ice cream.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 --- hurg <hurg wrote: > > reality, saying that ice cream is self-evident, what > is in doubt is > the existence of the ice cream shop. > Yeah, hur, I think you're one of the few here, who understands how ridiculous the Advaita position sounds when we try to put it into words. Obviously, there is duality at some level, and it doesn't go away, by just pretending it isn't there. We are in the position of a contortionist who manages to screw himself, and finds that his dick loves it, but his ass hates it, and yet,he is unable to stop. So we are one, but our dick is in our ass and we hate it. Can we stop fucking ourselves? Think about it! )) Pete HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Oh, oh, No enlightenment for you until you learn to call a pepper a pepper. )) Zip up your vocabulary's fly. Lol Pete --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart wrote: > i once had a experience with a capsicum,> ,for it to be included in the meal,i think i had > tears > in my eyes,i cant really explain it ,it was likethe > whole world and more at that time,i wonder if > enlightenment is like that but constantly ariel > --- HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 hi ya pete ,thats what i feel my big god in the sky is saying as well,i am trying to let go of the enlightenment thing anyway ,or maybe i,ll say as many peepers as you like and you grant enlightenment fair exchange i reckon thanks pete --- pete seesaw <seesaw1us wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Oh, oh, No enlightenment for you until you learn<BR> to call a pepper a pepper. ))<BR> Zip up your vocabulary's fly. Lol <BR> <BR> Pete<BR> --- ariel cathcart & lt;arielcathcart & gt; wrote:<BR> & gt; i once had a experience with a capsicum, & gt; ,for it to<BR> be included in the meal,i think i had<BR> & gt; tears<BR> & gt; in my eyes,i cant really explain it ,it was likethe<BR> & gt; whole world and more at that time,i wonder if<BR> & gt; enlightenment is like that but constantly & nbsp; & nbsp; ariel<BR> & gt; ---<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs<BR> <a href= " http://www.hotjobs.com " >http://www.hotjobs.com</a><BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 For that excellent reply to my snotty message, you can consider yourself knighted to the order of the Holy Pepper. Enlightenment is a gilded cage. When you accept the label of enlightenment, you have to live up to the expectations the label carries with it, which as you know, are pretty high. In other words you have to perform not only to the expectations of those who believe in your enlightenment, but yours as well. Why would anyone looking for liberation become a prisoner in such a cage? Freedom, my friend, is the name of the game. Freedom from all expectations, yours, as well as those of others. Total spontaneity. Love, Pete --- ariel cathcart <arielcathcart wrote: > hi ya pete ,thats what i feel my big god in the sky > is > saying as well,i am trying to let go of the > enlightenment thing anyway ,or maybe i,ll say as > many > peepers as you like and you grant enlightenment > fair > exchange i reckon thanks pete --- pete seesaw HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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