Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Ya, well, while you are swinging the ax at those war mongers out there, overtly or covertly, don't forget to check out your own war monger within. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > A Messiah or Sage is the correction in the field when too many > distracations and contradictions have occurred, he is an interface. In the ocean of being, a messiah is the schizoprenic wave who claims he's the only wave who's " That " while others are not. The believers in the messiah are the paranoid minds/waves who believe *only* one wave is " That " while they themselves are not. When the functional paranoid minds meet the functional schizoprenic messiah, it's a perfect match. The history of religion is full of messiahs, avatars, prophets and all sort of mad men. It's the human experience of madness, a very personal experience. Messiahs, prophets, avatars and their delusional followers have come and gone. Not much has changed. Advaita sages point the seeker to what does not change. hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 As Sankara noted it is real while you are in it. One cannot ignore it without violating ahimsa,( due to inaction and ignoring violence) unless one is a ~~~~Jivanmukti.!!!~~~~~ Tony. ~~~~ " He " ~~~~~ does not live from dead memory. Each moment is fresh and new. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Nisargadatta, " hurg " <hurg> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > A Messiah or Sage is the correction in the field when too many > > distracations and contradictions have occurred, he is an interface. > > In the ocean of being, a messiah is the schizoprenic wave who claims > he's the only wave who's " That " while others are not. The believers > in the messiah are the paranoid minds/waves who believe *only* one > wave is " That " while they themselves are not. When the functional > paranoid minds meet the functional schizoprenic messiah, it's a > perfect match. The history of religion is full of messiahs, avatars, > prophets and all sort of mad men. It's the human experience of > madness, a very personal experience. Messiahs, prophets, avatars and > their delusional followers have come and gone. Not much has > changed. Advaita sages point the seeker to what does not change. > > hur Namaste, On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible to play adult ballgames professionally........ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > As Sankara noted it is real while you are in it. > One cannot ignore it > without violating ahimsa,( due to inaction and ignoring violence) > unless one is a ~~~~Jivanmukti.!!!~~~~~ > Tony. > > > > ~~~~ " He " ~~~~~ > does not live from dead memory. > > Each moment is fresh and new. > > > . Namaste, That's why maharaj smoked, not to upset the body's past habits or hurt its future.?????.....ONS.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Tony to Hur: On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible to play adult ballgames professionally........ -------------------- Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. Not being a professional player! .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > Tony to Hur: > On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible to > play adult ballgames professionally........ > > -------------------- > > Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. > Not being a professional player! > > > . Namaste El, One has to learn what a trunk is and then be shown how to work the key, after one is taught what the key is........ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > > Tony to Hur: > > On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible to > > play adult ballgames professionally........ > > > > -------------------- > > > > Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. > > Not being a professional player! > > > > > > . > > Namaste El, > > One has to learn what a trunk is and then be shown how to work the > key, after one is taught what the key is........ONS....Tony. ----------------- The trunk unpacks itself on the death bed. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < > elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > > > > Tony to Hur: > > > On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible > to > > > play adult ballgames professionally........ > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. > > > Not being a professional player! > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Namaste El, > > Namaste, There is no death only a transition, the contents have to be aware of themself........ONS..Tony. > > One has to learn what a trunk is and then be shown how to > work the > > key, after one is taught what the key is........ONS....Tony. > > ----------------- > > The trunk unpacks itself on the death bed. > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < > > elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tony to Hur: > > > > On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be eligible > > to > > > > play adult ballgames professionally........ > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. > > > > Not being a professional player! > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > Namaste El, > > > > > Namaste, > > There is no death only a transition, the contents have to be aware of > themself........ONS..Tony. > > > One has to learn what a trunk is and then be shown how to > > work the > > > key, after one is taught what the key is........ONS....Tony. > > > > ----------------- > > > > The trunk unpacks itself on the death bed. > > > > . There is no trunk either! Let alone contents! haaaaaaaaaaa .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 & gt; The trunk unpacks itself on the death bed. Throw the damn trunk out the window, now. And let's change metaphors. ) .. Pete & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Nisargadatta, " hurg " <hurg> wrote: Not much has changed. Advaita sages point the seeker to what does not change. ))))Yes, not much has changed at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < > elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " < > > > elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tony to Hur: > > > > > On the basis of that logic, a kindergartner should be > eligible > > > to > > > > > play adult ballgames professionally........ > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Advaita is about unpacking the trunk. > > > > > Not being a professional player! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Namaste El, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > There is no death only a transition, the contents have to be > aware of > > themself........ONS..Tony. > > > > One has to learn what a trunk is and then be shown how to > > > work the > > > > key, after one is taught what the key is........ONS....Tony. > > > > > > ----------------- > > > > > > The trunk unpacks itself on the death bed. > > > > > > . > > There is no trunk either! > Let alone contents! > > haaaaaaaaaaa Namaste, Of course but who laughs? As Sankara said it is real enough while one is in it. We have to deal with the mind etc......ONS...Tony. > > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 We have to deal with the mind... Tony. Where is Pete with his flyswatter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > We have to deal with the mind... > > Tony. > > > > Where is Pete with his flyswatter! ------------- " Just sleep, eat, piss, shit. There's nothing else in life that has to be done. " hrtbeat7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: " Just sleep, eat, piss, shit. There's nothing else in life that has to be done. " ~ Patrul Rimpoche Many questions about the text were clarified according to the extremely kind explanations of the Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche, during his stay in New York City, and according to the detailed explanations of Khenpo, Rigdzin Dorje of the Nyingmapa Shedra, Bansbari, Kathmandu, Nepal. If you have questions, speak with them, Tony, or better yet, think nothing of it. We are not offering interpretations, affirmations, or denials. " I see the same world as you do, but not the same way. There is nothing mysterious about it. Everybody sees the world through the idea he has of himself. As you think yourself to be, so you think the world to be. If you imagine yourself as separate from the world, the world will appear as separate from you and you will experience desire and fear. I do not see the world as separate from me and so there is nothing for me to desire, or fear. " - Nisargadatta Maharaj LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 --- el_wells_2002 <elizabethwells wrote: > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " > <elizabethwells@m...> > wrote: > > We have to deal with the mind... > > > > Tony. > > > > > > > > Where is Pete with his flyswatter! > > ------------- > Taking a nap, as usual. Besides you don't want me to swatt someone while he is crapping. Do you? Love, Pete > " Just sleep, eat, piss, shit. > There's nothing else in life that has to be done. " > hrtbeat7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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