Discrimination and purification(yoga)

[Guest guest]

: Can discrimination lead to Realization? Is Divine

Grace necessary for Liberation?

 

 

 

 

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi continued: P33

 

29. On another occasion the evening was calm and

cloudy. It was drizzling occasionally and somewhat

cool in consequence. The windows of the Asramam Hall

were closed and Maharshi was seated as usual on the

sofa. Facing him sat the devotees. Some visitors had

come from Cuddalore. A Sub-Judge, accompanied by two

elderly ladies, was among them. The Sub-Judge began

the discussion as to the impermanence of all mundane

things, by putting the question: " Has the

discrimination between Reality and Unreality (Sat asat

vicharana) the efficacy in itself to lead us to the

realization of the one Imperishable? "

 

Maharshi: " As propounded by all

 

and realized by all true seekers

 

fixity in the Supreme Spirit (Brahma Nishta)

 

alone can make us know and realize it.

 

It being of us and in us,

 

any amount of discrimination (vivechana)

 

can lead us only one step forward,

 

by making us renouncers,

 

by goading us to discard the seeming (abhasa)

 

as transitory

 

and to hold fast to the eternal truth

 

and presence alone. "

 

The conversation turned upon the question as to

whether Divine Grace (Iswara Prasad) is necessary for

the attaining of universal dominion (samrajya)

or whether the individual's (jiva's) honest and

strenuous efforts to attain it cannot of themselves

lead him to That from whence there is no return to

life and death. The Maharshi with an ineffable smile

which lit up his Holy Face and which was

all-pervasive,

shining upon the coterie around him, replied in tones

of certainty and with the ring of truth;

 

Maharshi: " Divine Grace is essential for Realization.

 

It leads one to God-realization.

 

But such Grace is vouchsafed

 

only to him who is a true devotee

 

or a yogin,

 

who has striven hard and ceaselessly

 

on the path towards freedom. "

 

 

 

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'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.)

(Jesus answered with silence).

 

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Another interesting Jewish view.

http://www.netureikarta.org/

 

 

 

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