Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 Daily Words of the Buddha September 6, 2002 Throroughly understanding the Dhamma and freed from longing through insight, the wise one rid of all desire is calm as a pool unstirred by water. Itivuttaka 91 Namaste IMO, It seems no matter how verbally non dual one is, or how one goes within. If one has even one thought which is a desire....moksha is impossible and rebirth results........ONS........Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 Nisargadatta, Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: >It seems no matter how verbally non dual one is, or how one goes within. If one has even one thought which is a desire....moksha is impossible and rebirth results........ONS........Tony. ))))) Perhaps for some, but not for the Irish. Of the Irish, the great sage remarked: " Mukti or liberation is their nature. It is another name for them. Our wanting mukti is a very funny thing to them. It is like the englishman who is in the shade, voluntarily leaving the shade, going into the sun, feeling the severity of the heat there, making great efforts to get back to the shade and then rejoicing, " How sweet is the shade! I have reached the shade at last! " We are all doing exactly the same. We are not different from the reality. We imagine we are different, that is we create the bheda bhava [the feeling of difference] and then undergo great sadhana [spiritual practices] to get rid of the bheda bhava and realise the oneness. Why imagine or create bheda bhava and then destroy it? Why not be like the Irish, who enjoy the prior unity with the Real? When Irish eyes are smiilng, all the world is bright and gay. When Irish eyes are silent, what else is there to say? " ~ Sri Ramanirishanaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Nisargadatta, " hrtbeat7 " <hrtbeat7> wrote: > Nisargadatta, Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > >It seems no matter how verbally non dual one is, or > how one goes within. If one has even one thought which > is a desire....moksha is impossible and rebirth > results........ONS........Tony. > > > > ))))) Perhaps for some, but not for the Irish. > Of the Irish, the great sage remarked: > > " Mukti or liberation is their nature. It is another name for them. > Our wanting mukti is a very funny thing to them. It is like the > englishman who is in the shade, voluntarily leaving the shade, going > into the sun, feeling the severity of the heat there, making great > efforts to get back to the shade and then rejoicing, " How sweet is > the shade! I have reached the shade at last! " > We are all doing exactly the same. We are not different from the > reality. We imagine we are different, that is we create the bheda > bhava [the feeling of difference] and then undergo great sadhana > [spiritual practices] to get rid of the bheda bhava and realise the > oneness. Why imagine or create bheda bhava and then destroy it? Why > not be like the Irish, who enjoy the prior unity with the Real? When > Irish eyes are smiilng, all the world is bright and gay. When Irish > eyes are silent, what else is there to say? " > > ~ Sri Ramanirishanaya Namaste, Actually I don't see the whole world as gay, perhaps because I'm straight. haha Most of the Irish I know needed a little help from poteen/uisghe to keep bright and gay. Although there is the non serious approach to life which is evident in their jokes and humour. A desire is a thought and one thought will prevent the realisation of moksha and keep one in delusion. A dream is real whilst one is in it, a desire in a dream will keep one dreaming.......ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: >A desire is a thought and one thought will prevent the realisation of moksha and keep one in delusion. )))) Obviously, you've verified this, from the point of view of Moksha? >A dream is real whilst one is in it, a desire in a dream will keep one dreaming.......ONS....Tony. ))))) All that can be seen is nothing but a dream; And even when we think ourselves awake, We have only wakened in a dream. ~ Ghalib LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Nisargadatta, " hrtbeat7 " <hrtbeat7> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: > > >A desire is a thought and one thought will prevent the realisation > of moksha and keep one in delusion. > > > )))) Obviously, you've verified this, > from the point of view > of Moksha? > > > >A dream is real whilst one is in it, a desire in a dream will keep > one dreaming.......ONS....Tony. > > > ))))) All that can be seen is nothing but a dream; > And even when we think ourselves awake, > We have only wakened in a dream. > > ~ Ghalib > > > > LoveAlways, > > b Namaste, Even the dream didn't happen either........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Nisargadatta, " aoclery " <aoclery> wrote: A desire is a thought and one thought will prevent the realisation > of moksha and keep one in delusion. > > > )))) Obviously, you've verified this, > from the point of view > of Moksha? > > > >A dream is real whilst one is in it, a desire in a dream will keep > one dreaming.......ONS....Tony. > > > ))))) All that can be seen is nothing but a dream; > And even when we think ourselves awake, > We have only wakened in a dream. > > ~ Ghalib > > > > LoveAlways, > > b Namaste, Even the dream didn't happen either........ONS...Tony. ))) If the dream never happened, is it not so that desires, thoughts, realization, delusion, moksha, and the prevention of moksha also never happen? " How can the mind which has itself created the world accept it as unreal? That is the significance of the comparison made between the world of the waking state and the dream world. Both are creations of the mind and, so long as the mind is engrossed in either, it finds itself unable to deny their reality. It cannot deny the reality of the dream world while it is dreaming and it cannot deny the reality of the waking world while it is awake. If, on the contrary, you ... keep awake always to the Self which is the sub-stratum of all experiences, you will find the world of which you are now aware is just as unreal as the world in which you lived your dream. " - Sri Ramana Maharshi LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Nisargadatta, " hrtbeat7 " <hrtbeat7> wrote: > Nisargadatta, Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > >It seems no matter how verbally non dual one is, or > how one goes within. If one has even one thought which > is a desire....moksha is impossible and rebirth > results........ONS........Tony. > > > > ))))) Perhaps for some, but not for the Irish. > Of the Irish, the great sage remarked: > > " Mukti or liberation is their nature. It is another name for them. > Our wanting mukti is a very funny thing to them. It is like the > englishman who is in the shade, voluntarily leaving the shade, going > into the sun, feeling the severity of the heat there, making great > efforts to get back to the shade and then rejoicing, " How sweet is > the shade! I have reached the shade at last! " > We are all doing exactly the same. We are not different from the > reality. We imagine we are different, that is we create the bheda > bhava [the feeling of difference] and then undergo great sadhana > [spiritual practices] to get rid of the bheda bhava and realise the > oneness. Why imagine or create bheda bhava and then destroy it? Why > not be like the Irish, who enjoy the prior unity with the Real? When > Irish eyes are smiilng, all the world is bright and gay. When Irish > eyes are silent, what else is there to say? " > > ~ Sri Ramanirishanaya You make me laugh. And this is a most excellent thing, in my judgment :0) Wouldn'titbeloverly, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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